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Re: [Fot] Cleaining oil lines, and Spitfire Oil pump specs Questions

To: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cleaining oil lines, and Spitfire Oil pump specs Questions
From: Aaron Johnson <hpspitfire@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 08:08:41 +0530
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An accusump is not some marvel of modern engineering.   It is mearly a cylin=
der with a sliding piston in it.   A rebuild consists of 3 o-rings and 2 cir=
clips if you have that type. =20
Aaron

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27-May-2016, at 11:17 PM, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Bub, if this happened to me (which it did) and I suspected there was metal=
 in the oil, I would remove the accumulator and send it to the factory for r=
efurbishment (about $80 including new seals).  Even if I had a custom tool t=
o remove the large circlips at each end, the cost of just a seal kit is not m=
uch less than having the factory do a professional rebuild.   You will likel=
y have to replace the seals as a precautionary measure anyhow since they hav=
e been cut.   They (Moroso for me) will also run a pressure test on the gaug=
e and valve assembly.  Other manufacturers should have the same service.
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>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net> wrot=
e:
>> Bud,
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>> A car wash high pressure sprayer is a good way to blow out the lines and I=
 made a tool to take that accusump apart you can use.
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>> There is no good way to flush them while assembled. I like brake cleaner f=
or a final flush as it leaves no residue where mineral spirits will.
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>> jim
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>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud R
>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:05 PM
>> To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Fot] Cleaining oil lines, and Spitfire Oil pump specs Questions=

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>> =20
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>> Listerati,
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>> Some Spitfire 1300 engine re-assembly questions.
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>> =20
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>> 1) What to use to clean out oil lines, connections, and accusump after ha=
ving an engine disintegrate and create lots of metal particles that may or m=
ay not have migrated throughout the oil system. I=E2=80=99m considering mine=
ral spirits as a final cleaning. They have been gravity draining for a coupl=
e weeks hanging upside down.  I also have a new oil cooler since that was pr=
obably beyond cleaning effectively.
>>=20
>> =20
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>> 2) Procedure to clean the accusump. While it is out and not pressurized. J=
ust rinse it with mineral spirits?
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>> =20
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>> 3) Oil pump clearance specs on Spitfire (angled late 1500 version), now a=
t 0.004=E2=80=9D on all four lobes.
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>> =20
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>> Thanks
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>> Bud Rolofson
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>> =20
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>> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
>>=20
>> =20
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>> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
>>=20
>> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
>>=20
>> 69 Spitfire MK 3 (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
>>=20
>> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20
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>> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>An accusump is not some marvel of mode=
rn engineering. &nbsp; It is mearly a cylinder with a sliding piston in it. &=
nbsp; A rebuild consists of 3 o-rings and 2 circlips if you have that type. &=
nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Aaron<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</=
div><div><br>On 27-May-2016, at 11:17 PM, John Styduhar &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:johnstydo@gmail.com">johnstydo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:small">Bub, if this happened to me (which it did) and I suspe=
cted there was metal in the oil, I would remove the accumulator and send it t=
o the factory for refurbishment (about $80 including new seals).&nbsp; Even i=
f I had a custom tool to remove the large circlips at each end, the cost of j=
ust a seal kit is not much less than having the factory do a professional re=
build. &nbsp; You will likely have to replace the seals as a precautionary m=
easure anyhow since they have been cut. &nbsp; They (Moroso for me) will als=
o run a pressure test on the gauge and valve assembly.&nbsp; Other manufactu=
rers should have the same service.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Jim Gray <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
sans-serif">Bud,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">A car wash hig=
h pressure sprayer is a good way to blow out the lines and I made a tool to t=
ake that accusump apart you can use.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans=
-serif">There is no good way to flush them while assembled. I like brake cle=
aner for a final flush as it leaves no residue where mineral spirits will.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">jim<u></u><u></u></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calib=
ri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"borde=
r:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf=
 Of </b>Bud R<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> f=
ot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Cleaining oil lines, and Spitfire Oil=
 pump specs Questions<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Listerati,<u></u><u=
></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Some Spitfire 1300 engine re-assembly questions.<u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">1) What to use to clean out oil lines, connections=
, and accusump after having an engine disintegrate and create lots of metal p=
articles that may or may not have migrated throughout the oil system. I=E2=80=
=99m considering mineral spirits as a final cleaning. They have been gravity=
 draining for a couple weeks hanging upside down.&nbsp; I also have a new oi=
l cooler since that was probably beyond cleaning effectively.<u></u><u></u><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">2) Procedure to clean the accusump. While it is out and not pres=
surized. Just rinse it with mineral spirits?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>3) Oil pump clearance specs on Spitfire (angled late 1500 version), now at 0=
.004=E2=80=9D on all four lobes.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u><=
/u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:black">Bud Rolofson<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helv=
etica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Extreme Parts Racing&nbsp;(more than jus=
t a haircut)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:black">71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">69 Spitfire MK 3 (b=
ack up FE engine/dinghy car)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:black">93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle&nbsp;<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">77 Z-50A Ha=
rdly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></=
u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u>=
</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font=
-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></=
span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></sp=
an></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span=
></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span><=
/p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><=
/div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u>&nbsp;<u><=
/u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div></div></di=
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