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Re: [Fot] Different Tr3/4 sleeve design

To: Mordy Dunst <gasket.works@gte.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Different Tr3/4 sleeve design
From: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 09:41:49 -0500
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Hi Mordy, I like your design and the amount of material you have at the top
of the liner in case you want to shorten the liners. I wonder if the wire
groove would be interfered with after you cut the intake valve relief in
the top of the liner.  What sizes are you going to make?

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Mordy Dunst <gasket.works@gte.net> wrote:

> I've been thinking about the tr tractor motor sleeve/liner for a while
> -especially after a liner  cracked during a race.
> Went to the drawing board (autcad) and put some of my thoughts in a
> digital cad  format.
> The owner of  LA sleeve cleaned up my drawing a bit and I am glad to see
> that the project is completed.
>
> Some comments - some surprising.
> 1) each liner is about 200 gm lighter than stock. The liner is shortened
> to be the same   Dimension as the depth of the pocket in the block.
> 2) it is substantially stiffer than stock and holds machining tolerances
> much better.
> 3) the .040" groove is .035" deep to accept a .040" wire. (Square wire or
> round)
> 4) the wire groove on the surface may not need a wire -as the edges on
> either side  in the groove impart an increased unit surface pressure on the
> gasket.  The gasket will dimple into this recess and lock.
> 5) there is only a single flat on opposing liners.  My understanding of
> having multiple flats was to rotate and hone the liners during
> engine/tractor rebuilds.
> 6) cooling efficiency not tested.
>
>
> MDunst
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi =
Mordy, I like your design and the amount of material you have at the top of=
 the liner in case you want to shorten the liners. I wonder if the wire gro=
ove would be interfered with after you cut the intake valve relief in the t=
op of the liner.=C2=A0 What sizes are you going to make?</div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4=
:34 PM, Mordy Dunst <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gasket.works@gt=
e.net" target=3D"_blank">gasket.works@gte.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">I&#39;ve been thinking about the tr tractor moto=
r sleeve/liner for a while -especially after a liner =C2=A0cracked=C2=A0dur=
ing a race. =C2=A0<br>Went to the drawing board (autcad) and put some of my=
 thoughts in a digital cad=C2=A0=C2=A0format. =C2=A0<div>The owner of =C2=
=A0LA sleeve cleaned up my drawing a bit and I am glad to see that=C2=A0the=
 project is completed.</div><div><br></div><div>Some=C2=A0comments - some s=
urprising.</div><div>1) each liner is about 200 gm lighter than stock. The =
liner is shortened to be the same =C2=A0 Dimension=C2=A0as the depth of the=
 pocket in the block.=C2=A0<br>2) it is substantially stiffer than stock an=
d holds=C2=A0machining tolerances much better.</div><div>3) the .040&quot; =
groove is .035&quot; deep to accept a .040&quot; wire. (Square wire or roun=
d)</div><div>4) the wire=C2=A0groove=C2=A0on the surface may not need a wir=
e -as the edges on either side=C2=A0=C2=A0in=C2=A0the groove impart=C2=A0an=
 increased unit surface pressure on the gasket.=C2=A0 The gasket will dimpl=
e into this recess and lock.=C2=A0</div><div>5) there is only a single flat=
 on opposing liners.=C2=A0 My understanding of having multiple flats was to=
 rotate and hone the=C2=A0liners during engine/tractor=C2=A0rebuilds. =C2=
=A0</div><div>6) cooling efficiency not tested.</div><div><br></div><div><b=
r><div>MDunst<br><a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"http://headgasket.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">Headgasket.com</a><br><a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"tel:626.358.1616" target=
=3D"_blank">626.358.1616</a> T<br><a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"tel:626.628.3777" =
target=3D"_blank">626.628.3777</a> F<br>Triple R Munitions, Inc<br><a dir=
=3D"ltr" href=3D"tel:626.201.9471" target=3D"_blank">626.201.9471</a> T<br>=
FFL 6,7 SOT 2<br><br><br></div></div><br>__________________________________=
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