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This group has figured out more difficult problems than this one. I would
like to know from anyone
who has had a failure if being at full lock might have caused all the
failures.
Seems like a place to start. What is common to all the failures? If it is
full lock that does it would
modified steering stops be an option? Over the winter I'm for sure going to
take a hard look at pinning the
ends.
Jim g
_____
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Bownes -Seiri
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:04 PM
To: Tony Drews
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack
Sounds like a different housing design would solve the problem. Or an
alternative rack & pinion for a standard rack.
On Nov 11, 2015, at 14:43, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> wrote:
The issue is that the "tube" is pressed into the housing where the pinion
meets the rack. When you go to full lock, you can knock the tube out the
end of the housing which then makes the rack no longer pressed into the
pinion and steering failure occurs. The fix would involve making sure that
the tube is solidly attached to the housing so it can no longer be pushed
out. Something like holes with bolts / pins could be a possibility, but
that would need to be done in a way to not interfere with normal operation.
In my case, I bought the "quick rack" on sale for under $200 and don't care
to even mess with it since I'd be guessing at a fix.
Cheers, Tony Drews
At 10:13 AM 11/11/2015, robertten1@aol.com wrote:
Curious,
What has been the fix to these racks to make them reliable, if any?? I have
a TVR buddy that has an Argentine Quik Rack an would be interested in
learning about any successful fix(s), outside of tossing this brand new rack
he acquired a few years ago.
Helping a friend,
Bob T
'64 Spit GT autocrosser
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Sheach <tony.sheach@live.co.uk>
To: Jack Mc <LimeyV8@aol.com>
Cc: <fot@autox.team.net> <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2015 7:47 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack
All the racks sold by MOSS are made in Argentina - the only rack produced in
the UK for the TR is made for TR Enterprises and has a solid billet casing,
so instantly recognisable.
Putting the Argentinian rack in a bag with a sticker that says 'product of
the U.K.' Is surely just a dodge to mask the source and to hoodwink people
into thinking that it's a different product. That's simply scandalous.
Sent from my iPad
On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:26, Jack Mc <LimeyV8@aol.com> wrote:
The quick rack I bought had a sticker on the bag that said "product of the
U.K."
AND
a sticker on the rack that said "Made in Argentina"
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
<triosan@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony,
Who si the source for the UK made rack?
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Tony Sheach <tony.sheach@live.co.uk >
wrote:
Charly
There were a large number of failures of these racks in the UK on both road
and competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only one is simply
untrue.
I personally had TWO failures of brand new racks about 18 months apart. Both
of these failures involved the pinion housing separating from the rack tube
at high speed in very dangerous circumstances.
I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack to anyone, whether for road or
competition use because the manufacturing quality is poor and the material
quality is similarly inadequate. The information that I was given at a
meeting face to face with MOSS in london have me the impression that some
testing had been done, but the solution to the problem really had not been
found (ie do the job properly).
I now use a custom made rack which has a single piece pinion housing and
rack tube made from billet aluminium. These are being made in the UK. I will
never use a steering rack supplied by MOSS again.
Regards
Tony
Sent from my iPhone
> On 9 Nov 2015, at 07:04, Charly < charly@mitchelplumbing.com
>
> Friends,
>
> I have a friend wanting to buy a quick steering rack for his TR4A. I told
him there was a problem with them, but I thought it was resolved. I
searched the archives
> and could find anything about it. Does someone in the group know the
outcome of the problems that were brought to Moss on these quick racks?
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> Tr6 #44
>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This group has figured out more =
difficult
problems than this one. I would like to know from anyone =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>who has had a failure if being at =
full
lock might have caused all the failures.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Seems like a place to start. What =
is
common to all the failures? If it is full lock that does it would =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>modified steering stops be an =
option? Over
the winter I’m for sure going to take a hard look at pinning =
the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim g <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Fot
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Bob Bownes -Seiri<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November =
11, 2015
2:04 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tony Drews<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
fot@autox.team.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] TR4 =
TR6 quick
rack</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Sounds like a different housing design would solve the problem. =
Or an
alternative rack & pinion for a standard =
rack. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
On Nov 11, 2015, at 14:43, Tony Drews <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tony@tonydrews.com";>tony@tonydrews.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>The issue is that the "tube" is pressed into the =
housing
where the pinion meets the rack. When you go to full lock, you can =
knock
the tube out the end of the housing which then makes the rack no longer =
pressed
into the pinion and steering failure occurs. The fix would involve =
making
sure that the tube is solidly attached to the housing so it can no =
longer be
pushed out. Something like holes with bolts / pins could be a
possibility, but that would need to be done in a way to not interfere =
with
normal operation.<br>
<br>
In my case, I bought the "quick rack" on sale for under $200 =
and
don't care to even mess with it since I'd be guessing at a fix.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Tony Drews<br>
<br>
At 10:13 AM 11/11/2015, <a =
href=3D"mailto:robertten1@aol.com";>robertten1@aol.com</a>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'>Curious, <br>
<br>
What has been the fix to these racks to make them reliable, if =
any?? I
have a TVR buddy that has an Argentine Quik Rack an would be interested =
in
learning about any successful fix(s), outside of tossing this brand new =
rack he
acquired a few years ago.<br>
<br>
Helping a friend,<br>
Bob T<br>
'64 Spit GT autocrosser<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Tony Sheach <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tony.sheach@live.co.uk";>tony.sheach@live.co.uk</a>><br>=
To: Jack Mc <<a =
href=3D"mailto:LimeyV8@aol.com";>LimeyV8@aol.com</a>><br>
Cc: <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2015 7:47 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack<br>
<br>
All the racks sold by MOSS are made in <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on">Argentina</st1:country-region>
- the only rack produced in the <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
for the TR is made for TR Enterprises and has a solid billet casing, so
instantly recognisable.<br>
<br>
Putting the Argentinian rack in a bag with a sticker that says 'product =
of the <st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">U.K.</st1:place></st1:country-region>' Is surely
just a dodge to mask the source and to hoodwink people into thinking =
that it's
a different product. That's simply scandalous. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:26, Jack Mc <<a =
href=3D"mailto:LimeyV8@aol.com";>LimeyV8@aol.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
The quick rack I bought had a sticker on the bag that said "product =
of the
<st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">U.K.</st1:place></st1:country-region>"
<br>
AND<br>
a sticker on the rack that said "Made in <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">Argentina</st1:place></st1:country-region>"<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <<a
href=3D"mailto:triosan@gmail.com";>triosan@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Who si the source for the <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> made =
rack?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Tony Sheach =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:tony.sheach@live.co.uk";>tony.sheach@live.co.uk</a> > =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Charly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>There were a large number of failures of =
these racks
in the <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
on both road and competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only =
one is
simply untrue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I personally had TWO failures of brand new =
racks about
18 months apart. Both of these failures involved the pinion housing =
separating
from the rack tube at high speed in very dangerous =
circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack =
to
anyone, whether for road or competition use because the manufacturing =
quality
is poor and the material quality is similarly inadequate. The =
information that
I was given at a meeting face to face with MOSS in london have me the
impression that some testing had been done, but the solution to the =
problem
really had not been found (ie do the job =
properly).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I now use a custom made rack which has a =
single piece
pinion housing and rack tube made from billet aluminium. These are being =
made
in the <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
I will never use a steering rack supplied by MOSS =
again.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Tony<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> On 9 Nov 2015, at 07:04, Charly <<a
href=3D"mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com";> =
charly@mitchelplumbing.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> Friends,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> I have a friend wanting to buy a quick =
steering
rack for his TR4A. I told him there was a problem with them, but I
thought it was resolved. I searched the =
archives<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> and could find anything about it. =
Does
someone in the group know the outcome of the problems that were brought =
to Moss
on these quick racks?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> Charly =
Mitchel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> Tr6 #44<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> =
_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>> <a =
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</span></font>_______________________________________________<br>
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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>______________________________________________=
_<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com";>http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br>
<br>
href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html";>http://www.team.net/donate.html<=
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