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Our 78 Alfetta Chump car does Ok against the newer cars. It was 21 out =
of
70 at Road America recently. Check out B.S. Levy=E2=80=99s blog =
=E2=80=93 he was one of
our drivers. =20
art de armond
From: Steven Belfer=20
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 10:50 AM
To: Doug Mitchell=20
Cc: Fot=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] cams and roaches and such
I like racing (and passing) Miatas. It's cool to see how our cars =
measure up against Modern 30-year old cars from 1985. We need more =
entries to keep the sport alive. At some point our Triumphs will be part =
of the Historic class.=20
~Steve=20
On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:04 AM, Doug Mitchell <dbm.spitfire@gmail.com> =
wrote:
Although I don't race, I am a worker, and I find myself at odds with =
some over the definition of vintage. I agree that Hondas are not, by my =
definition, vintage. At least not those built in the '80s or '90s.
Doug Mitchell
dbm.spitfire@gmail.com
Sent from my mobile phone.
On Nov 1, 2015 8:21 AM, "Henry Morrison" <dos_gusanos@msn.com> wrote:
My cars aren't that great but I avoid like the plague any event =
where newer cars will be allowed in the group with me. We went this =
year to the Hawk, there was a Honda CRX in the group. There's just no =
polishing that turd. Won't go again.
=20
A snob is merely someone who appreciates that which is good.=20
=20
Cheers, Henry Morrison
=20
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> From: jhasty@mhc-law.com
> To: trmarty@hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 01:24:37 +0000
> CC: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] cams and roaches and such
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> Marty... There's no doubt the entry @ MO is down, even from just 3 =
or 4 years ago... In my opinion SVRA 's"new" approach with emphasis on =
newer cars and more events is the cause. In the mid Atlantic & south VRG =
& VDCA are the only events where you find a "real" vintage field of =
cars....
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:50 PM, "marty" =
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> Well since my car is not fast but is OK looking I guess I can be =
considered a potato bug or something. Well I like a nice looking car as =
well as anybody but I miss the lower tiered cars that used to come out =
in droves. The head counts at my local track =E2=80=9CMid-Ohio=E2=80=9D =
are a mear shadow of what they used to be back in the early =
90=E2=80=99s. Granted the cars that show up to race are top shelf but =
the paddocks sure are empty. Car shows are similar, used to be full of =
daily drivers, people hanging out having a good time but now the entries =
are half of what they used to be but everything is restored to the nth =
degree and the people with drivers don't even bother coming out for fear =
of being given the ole harry eyeball. My view anyhow.
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<DIV>Our 78 Alfetta Chump car does Ok against the newer =
cars. It was=20
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<DIV>70 at Road America recently. Check out B.S. =
Levy=E2=80=99s blog =E2=80=93 he=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 01, 2015 10:50 AM</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:dbm.spitfire@gmail.com">Doug Mitchell</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] cams and roaches and =
such</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I like racing (and passing) Miatas. It's cool to see how our cars =
measure=20
up against Modern 30-year old cars from 1985. We need more entries to =
keep the=20
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class.=20
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<DIV><BR>On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:04 AM, Doug Mitchell <<A=20
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<P dir=3Dltr>Although I don't race, I am a worker, and I find myself =
at odds=20
with some over the definition of vintage. I agree that Hondas are not, =
by my=20
definition, vintage. At least not those built in the '80s or '90s.</P>
<P dir=3Dltr>Doug Mitchell<BR><A=20
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Nov 1, 2015 8:21 AM, "Henry Morrison" =
<<A=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>My cars aren't that great but I avoid like the plague =
any event=20
where newer cars will be allowed in the group with me. We went =
this=20
year to the Hawk, there was a Honda CRX in the group. There's =
just no=20
polishing that turd. Won't go again.<BR> <BR>A snob is =
merely=20
someone who appreciates that which is good. <BR> <BR>Cheers, =
Henry=20
Morrison<BR> <BR><BR> <BR>
<DIV>> From: <A href=3D"mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com"=20
target=3D_blank>jhasty@mhc-law.com</A><BR>> To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:trmarty@hotmail.com"=20
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2015=20
01:24:37 +0000<BR>> CC: <A href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=20
target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [Fot] =
cams and=20
roaches and such<BR>> <BR>> Marty... There's no doubt the =
entry @ MO=20
is down, even from just 3 or 4 years ago... In my opinion SVRA =
's"new"=20
approach with emphasis on newer cars and more events is the cause. =
In the=20
mid Atlantic & south VRG & VDCA are the only events where =
you find a=20
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are a mear shadow of=20
what they used to be back in the early 90=E2=80=99s. Granted the =
cars that show up=20
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time but now the entries are half of what they used to be but =
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