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Doug,
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so is me!
I was talked of that I should serve my engine champagne instead of foam =
wine.
Unfortunately I already had champagne with my expensive engine oil and =
turned it to shit with adding an additive.
=20
Cheers
Chris
(BTW=E2=80=A6very cool to talk someone who is related to the engine =
development)
=20
Von: Doug Mitchell [mailto:dbm.spitfire@gmail.com]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 12. September 2015 15:22
An: MadMarx
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
=20
My dad, one of the engineers responsible for the Buick/Rover 3.5 taught =
me that if you start with a quality motor oil, there is no need for any =
additives. Disagree if you wish, but I have stuck with that advice.
=20
=20
Doug Mitchell
Sent from my mobile phone
-------- Original message --------
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>=20
Date: 09/12/2015 8:51 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
To: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net,'Friends of Triumph' Triumph =
<fot@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator=20
It may have allowed your oil to aerate so your pump was trying to move =
oil with air bubbles in it. It apparently has no anti-foaming =
additives, so when you add it to your oil, you are diluting the =
additives in the regular oil. There was an article on the =
bobistheoilguy.com website some years back that showed in graphic detail =
what happens with this additive whether it=E2=80=99s used in a gearbox =
or an engine. Unfortunately I can only find an archived version of this =
article and the photos are no longer visible. The photos I remember =
showed the oil turning a much lighter color after it had been thoroughly =
agitated, which meant it was filled with air bubbles. Air compresses, =
so I can see a connection between aerated oil and a drop in oil =
pressure.
=20
http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8
=20
Duncan
(Texas)
=20
On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> wrote:
=20
Hello Alex,
=20
I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I did.
This stuff is stiff like frozen honey.
=20
I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn=E2=80=99t able =
to force it through the system and opened the relive valve.
=20
Chris
=20
Von: AC [mailto:ac@camoletti.ch]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 12. September 2015 09:19
An: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; triumphs@autox.team.net; MadMarx
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
=20
Hallo lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two of them, =
mineral and synthetic.=20
---- MadMarx a =C3=A9crit ----
Hi Guys,
=20
by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two cans of =
Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA TR8.
Listen to the difference.
The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40 psi on =
driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.
=20
The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank bearings =
and a worn out camshaft.
This has happened in April.
My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that =
he=E2=80=99s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the =
engine.
=20
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc> =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>so is me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I was talked of that I should serve my engine champagne instead of =
foam wine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Unfortunately I already had champagne with my expensive engine oil =
and turned it to shit with adding an additive.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>(BTW=E2=80=A6very cool to talk someone who is related to the engine =
development)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Doug Mitchell [mailto:dbm.spitfire@gmail.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Samstag, 12. September 2015 15:22<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx<br><b>Cc:</b> =
'Friends of Triumph' Triumph<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil =
Stabilisator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My dad, =
one of the engineers responsible for the Buick/Rover 3.5 taught me that =
if you start with a quality motor oil, there is no need for any =
additives. Disagree if you wish, but I have stuck with that =
advice.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Doug Mitchell<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my mobile phone<br><br><br>-------- Original =
message --------<br>From: Duncan Charlton <<a =
href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com";>duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</=
a>> <br>Date: 09/12/2015 8:51 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: MadMarx <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>>=
<br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net,'Friends">triumphs@autox.team.net,=
'Friends</a> of Triumph' Triumph <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator <br><br><br>It may have =
allowed your oil to aerate so your pump was trying to move oil with air =
bubbles in it. It apparently has no anti-foaming additives, so =
when you add it to your oil, you are diluting the additives in the =
regular oil. There was an article on the <a =
href=3D"http://bobistheoilguy.com";>bobistheoilguy.com</a> website some =
years back that showed in graphic detail what happens with this additive =
whether it=E2=80=99s used in a gearbox or an engine. Unfortunately =
I can only find an archived version of this article and the photos are =
no longer visible. The photos I remember showed the oil turning a =
much lighter color after it had been thoroughly agitated, which meant it =
was filled with air bubbles. Air compresses, so I can see a =
connection between aerated oil and a drop in oil =
pressure.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8";>http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8</a></span>=
</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Duncan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>(Texas)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>>=
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hello Alex,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I =
did.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This stuff is stiff like frozen =
honey.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn=E2=80=99t =
able to force it through the system and opened the relive =
valve.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span=
></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>AC [<a =
href=3D"mailto:ac@camoletti.ch";>mailto:ac@camoletti.ch</a>]<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Samstag, 12. September 2015 =
09:19<br><b>An:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>''Friends of Triumph' =
Triumph'; <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>; =
MadMarx<br><b>Betreff:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil =
Stabilisator</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hallo =
lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two of them, =
mineral and synthetic.<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>---- MadMarx a =
=C3=A9crit ----<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hi Guys,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two cans =
of Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA =
TR8.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Listen to the difference.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40 psi =
on driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank =
bearings and a worn out camshaft.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This has happened in April.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that =
he=E2=80=99s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the =
engine.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc"; =
target=3D"_blank"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:purple'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc</spa=
n></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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