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You certainly can get scattered spark timing with a wobbly distributor, =
and it can be somewhat consistent. Less common with a magnetic trigger, =
though still possible. When setting timing on the old /5 BMW motorcycles =
you put a timing light on the flywheel mark and observed the jitter. =
Then turn the engine until the points open (one set of points for both =
coils=E2=80=94wasted spark system), note the marking on the cam, and =
cive a gentle rap to the cam with a copper rod and mallet. Recheck and =
see if the jutter got bigger or smaller. Always seemed whacky that =
something as precise as a beemer boxer motor would be so primitive, but =
it worked.=20
Makes a lot more sense that it was a head gasket leak.=20
> On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:53 AM, JIm Gray via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> Marcel
> The photo shows a massive head gasket leak on # 3. When I first read =
the post I was, and am wondering how an early spark
> could occur on # 3 only. My first though was maybe an intake manifold =
leak at # 3 causing it to lean out.
> jim g
>=20
> From: "Marcel Van Mulders via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: rkramer3@austin.rr.com
> Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:28:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice vid
>=20
> Thanks Bob,
> It takes a lot of time and effort (and money) to make a new car to =
perform
> to your likes.
> I'm sure the TR6 will make you happy sooner or later.
> Marcel.=20
>=20
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: rkramer3@austin.rr.com [mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com]=20
> Verzonden: maandag 20 april 2015 18:19
> Aan: Marcel Van Mulders
> CC: fot@autox.team.net
> Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice vid
>=20
> Marcel,
>=20
> It sure looks good! I'm sorry that you had problems. I know you were =
on your
> way to a good finish, and you haven't had much time to get used to a
> different car. Best of luck.
>=20
> Bob Kramer
> rkramer3@austin.rr.com
>=20
> ---- Marcel Van Mulders <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote:=20
> > Bob,
> > I had a weird ignition problem. I don't know exactly what happened =
but=20
> > it seems that cylinder #3 got an earlier ignition timing than the=20
> > other cylinders,hence heavy detonation, with a holed piston as a=20
> > consequence. The maximum total advance was already about at the =
border=20
> > with 34=C2=B0 but the other pistons do not show any detonation =
damage. When=20
> > the engine is complete again, I'll try to find the culprit exactly.=20=
> > Only in the first two laps, the engine went about normal, but it was=20=
> > misfiring already but road holding and especially the brakes were=20
> > great. I started at 12th position on the grid and after the timed=20
> > practice, I changed the anti roll bar balance, brake bias and rear=20=
> > axle ratio. After 2 laps, I was in fourth position but then the =
power=20
> > faded and it ended in a cloud of black smoke. Hopefully I can show =
the=20
> > potential of the car at the Zandvoort circuit on May the 2nd-3rd. I=20=
> > will post an onboard video if I can finish a race there. I will all =
do
> what I can to make you regret you sold your car! :-).
> > Marcel.
> >=20
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: rkramer3@austin.rr.com [mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com]
> > Verzonden: maandag 20 april 2015 17:50
> > Aan: Marcel Van Mulders
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice vid
> >=20
> > Marcel
> >=20
> > I looked at a Youtube video of a race from Hockenheim. I looked =
liked=20
> > you were gridded in the top 12 and at one point were running 4th, =
then=20
> > you were gone. What broke?
> >=20
> > Bob Kramer
> > rkramer3@austin.rr.com
> >=20
> > ---- Marcel Van Mulders via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
> > > Hallo Dave;
> > > One can see that you enjoy the driving and the racing in your TR3.=20=
> > > It strikingly makes me think my late TR3 racecar : the same shade=20=
> > > of yellow, the same steering wheel. It came to an end at the=20
> > > Zandvoort racing circuit a year ago after an eventfull 12 year=20
> > > racing career and proving that a TR3 can be as fast as every other=20=
> > > TR. In Hockenheim, I had my first racing week-end with Bob =
Kramer's=20
> > > TR4A : engine problems made me stop after 10 laps. In 2 weeks it's
> Zandvoort again.
> > > Do you have video's of races Dave?
> > > Marcel
> > >=20
> > > _____
> > >=20
> > > Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Dave Hogye via=20=
> > > Fot
> > > Verzonden: dinsdag 14 april 2015 16:26
> > > Aan: Friends of Friends of Triumph
> > > Onderwerp: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice vid
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Hello Friends,
> > > Please view this link to my video from last Saturday's timed=20
> > > practice at Sonoma.
> > > I had a blast driving in traffic with close to 50 cars in the =
field. =20
> > > My TR3 is performing well. This is my 3rd weekend of racing and =
the=20
> > > car has an equivalent of 5 weekends on it now with the 2 Hooked on=20=
> > > Driving
> > track days.
> > > Besides the past axle seal issue, I've only been adding gas and=20
> > > checking tire pressures. I enjoy driving on the street from time =
to=20
> > > time
> > too.
> > > That's one way I work things out before I get to the track.
> > >=20
> > > Dave
> > >=20
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVxOTVY6M2io
> > >=20
> >=20
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class=3D"">You certainly can get scattered spark timing with a wobbly =
distributor, and it can be somewhat consistent. Less common with a =
magnetic trigger, though still possible. When setting timing on the old =
/5 BMW motorcycles you put a timing light on the flywheel mark and =
observed the jitter. Then turn the engine until the points open (one set =
of points for both coils=E2=80=94wasted spark system), note the marking =
on the cam, and cive a gentle rap to the cam with a copper rod and =
mallet. Recheck and see if the jutter got bigger or smaller. Always =
seemed whacky that something as precise as a beemer boxer motor would be =
so primitive, but it worked. <div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Makes a lot more sense that it was a =
head gasket leak. </div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Apr 20, 2015, at 8:53 AM, JIm Gray via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><div aria-label=3D"Compose body" class=3D"">Marcel<br =
class=3D""></div>
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body" class=3D"">The photo shows a massive =
head gasket leak on # 3. When I first read the post I was, and am =
wondering how an early spark</div>
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body" class=3D"">could occur on # 3 only. My =
first though was maybe an intake manifold leak at # 3 causing =
it to lean out.</div>
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body" class=3D"">jim g</div>
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text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: </b>"Marcel Van Mulders =
via Fot" <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com" =
class=3D"">rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc: =
</b>"fot" <fot@autox.team.net><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent: =
</b>Monday, April 20, 2015 10:28:28 AM<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice vid<br class=3D"">=
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Thanks Bob,<br class=3D"">It takes =
a lot of time and effort (and money) to make a new car to perform<br =
class=3D"">to your likes.<br class=3D"">I'm sure the TR6 will make you =
happy sooner or later.<br class=3D"">Marcel. <br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br =
class=3D"">Van: rkramer3@austin.rr.com [mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com] =
<br class=3D"">Verzonden: maandag 20 april 2015 18:19<br class=3D"">Aan: =
Marcel Van Mulders<br class=3D"">CC: fot@autox.team.net<br =
class=3D"">Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice vid<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Marcel,<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>It sure looks good! I'm sorry that =
you had problems. I know you were on your<br class=3D"">way to a good =
finish, and you haven't had much time to get used to a<br =
class=3D"">different car. Best of luck.<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Bob Kramer<br =
class=3D"">rkramer3@austin.rr.com<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>---- Marcel Van Mulders =
<van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: <br class=3D"">> =
Bob,<br class=3D"">> I had a weird ignition problem. I don't =
know exactly what happened but <br class=3D"">> it seems that =
cylinder #3 got an earlier ignition timing than the <br class=3D"">> =
other cylinders,hence heavy detonation, with a holed piston as a <br =
class=3D"">> consequence. The maximum total advance was already about =
at the border <br class=3D"">> with 34=C2=B0 but the other pistons do =
not show any detonation damage. When <br class=3D"">> the engine is =
complete again, I'll try to find the culprit exactly. <br class=3D"">> =
Only in the first two laps, the engine went about normal, but it was <br =
class=3D"">> misfiring already but road holding and especially the =
brakes were <br class=3D"">> great. I started at 12th position on the =
grid and after the timed <br class=3D"">> practice, I changed the =
anti roll bar balance, brake bias and rear <br class=3D"">> axle =
ratio. After 2 laps, I was in fourth position but then the power <br =
class=3D"">> faded and it ended in a cloud of black smoke. Hopefully =
I can show the <br class=3D"">> potential of the car at the Zandvoort =
circuit on May the 2nd-3rd. I <br class=3D"">> will post an onboard =
video if I can finish a race there. I will all do<br class=3D"">what I =
can to make you regret you sold your car! :-).<br class=3D"">> =
Marcel.<br class=3D"">> <br class=3D"">> -----Oorspronkelijk =
bericht-----<br class=3D"">> Van: rkramer3@austin.rr.com =
[mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com]<br class=3D"">> Verzonden: maandag 20 =
april 2015 17:50<br class=3D"">> Aan: Marcel Van Mulders<br =
class=3D"">> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice vid<br =
class=3D"">> <br class=3D"">> Marcel<br class=3D"">> <br =
class=3D"">> I looked at a Youtube video of a race from Hockenheim. I =
looked liked <br class=3D"">> you were gridded in the top 12 and at =
one point were running 4th, then <br class=3D"">> you were gone. What =
broke?<br class=3D"">> <br class=3D"">> Bob Kramer<br =
class=3D"">> rkramer3@austin.rr.com<br class=3D"">> <br =
class=3D"">> ---- Marcel Van Mulders via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: <br class=3D"">> > Hallo =
Dave;<br class=3D"">> > One can see that you enjoy the driving and =
the racing in your TR3. <br class=3D"">> > It strikingly makes me =
think my late TR3 racecar : the same shade <br class=3D"">> =
> of yellow, the same steering wheel. It came to an end at the <br =
class=3D"">> > Zandvoort racing circuit a year ago after an =
eventfull 12 year <br class=3D"">> > racing career and proving =
that a TR3 can be as fast as every other <br class=3D"">> > TR. In =
Hockenheim, I had my first racing week-end with Bob Kramer's <br =
class=3D"">> > TR4A : engine problems made me stop after 10 laps. =
In 2 weeks it's<br class=3D"">Zandvoort again.<br class=3D"">> > =
Do you have video's of races Dave?<br class=3D"">> > Marcel<br =
class=3D"">> > <br class=3D"">> > _____<br =
class=3D"">> > <br class=3D"">> > Van: Fot =
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class=3D"">> > Fot<br class=3D"">> > Verzonden: dinsdag 14 =
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Triumph<br class=3D"">> > Onderwerp: [Fot] Sonoma timed practice =
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> Hello Friends,<br class=3D"">> > Please view this link to my =
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Sonoma.<br class=3D"">> > I had a blast driving in traffic with =
close to 50 cars in the field. <br class=3D"">> > My TR3 is =
performing well. This is my 3rd weekend of racing and the <br =
class=3D"">> > car has an equivalent of 5 weekends on it now with =
the 2 Hooked on <br class=3D"">> > Driving<br class=3D"">> =
track days.<br class=3D"">> > Besides the past axle seal issue, =
I've only been adding gas and <br class=3D"">> > checking tire =
pressures. I enjoy driving on the street from time to <br =
class=3D"">> > time<br class=3D"">> too.<br class=3D"">> =
> That's one way I work things out before I get to the track.<br =
class=3D"">> > <br class=3D"">> > Dave<br class=3D"">> =
> <br class=3D"">> > =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVxOTVY6M2io<br class=3D"">> > =
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