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Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat?

To: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat?
From: sherry robyn <sherryjimmy6116@att.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:44:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Thanks Scott, that's a good thought; I'll give it a try.  The way I picture
it, the TR6 squat is a dynamic thing and not a static thing.  I believe what
you are saying is that if the static camber is, say, one degree more negative
at a prescribed incline, then that would be one more degree in the wrong
direction.  That being said, it still might end up with the same negative
camber over the same period of time even with the weight bias more on the
rear.  That I wouldn't know by the static test.  Jim
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 From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
To: 'sherry robyn' <sherryjimmy6116@att.net> 
Cc: 'Robert M. Lang'
<lang@isis.mit.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [Fot]
Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6  squat?
  

Have you tried
jacking the front of the car up to simulate the actual slope of the hills
you'll be racing on to see what it does to the static camber of your car?  I
assume your concern is the weight jacking caused by the slope?

Scott B.
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From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of sherry robyn
Sent: Tuesday,
June 25, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Robert M. Lang
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re:
[Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat?

Hi Bob,
I do
have camber adjustment on the rear and that is what I thought I might adjust
for a hillclimb where more weight is on the rear.  I have stiffer springs
(normal height) all the way around, rear sway bar, Koni shocks on rear (tied
into the roll cage), and currently zero degrees rear camber.  I just wondered
if I should set the rear camber for something like one degree positive for a
hillclimb.

Jim


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From:
Robert M. Lang
<lang@isis.mit.edu>
To: sherry robyn <sherryjimmy6116@att.net>
Sent: Tuesday,
June 25, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb
conditions increase or
decrease TR6 squat?
  

Hi,

I doubt that a hillclimb
would add more squat on
acceleration.

The squat on the TR6 is more or less a
feature.

You cannot
dial it out with just springs. Well, you can (by running stupidly stiff
springs), but then the car won't handle.

The best thing you
can do is either
completely replace the suspension with a better design, like a Miata rear or
maybe a BMW 3-series (or even TVR 2500 / Jag) OR run a better shock setup that
allows you to control the weight transfer...

Or you can live
with the squat.
To that end, you SHOULD pay attention to whether you're hitting the bump stops
or not. If so, you def. need either stiffer springs / bars or you need to
learn to NOT "throw" the car around.

regards,
rml
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