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Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles

To: "EDWARD BARNARD" <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>, "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" <info@dieselperformanceparts.com>, <fot@autox.team.net>, "Spitfire Racing" <Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles
From: "RACER BUD" <budscars@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:06:39 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1358482000; bh=ocFIu+shcg1XCfgFtNQvqDmLHLrH8n+5EzIVjv20ZVA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jgPmdRcwNOwXPNNQDWCoy3UcgZwRUnQkiINjUQNkpXUg+DNgJoxfCRydKkDOI4ULz bS15mbRvWhXiP7AHj4OCWp+WXjJ2g/edUAsqUgFVElE1RWbzBCPfEGoAU/A9FFoJGh 7XLjkYtw2wLX7hNkfvURQcdY/ok2NN5tGPtmMiRT3IXIsUDT0okX6Ubc1e1RpVIoPS lAE3QemfOFRcN6E/eP4f/3Pbz4tIMPjuoHlR8M5hM5PVWZzmStc3ph+6d0QfDa66Du TVKzE+K+dWKKLRh6maJLcPqWvtcBgnrTLRQhUsnDlOoPnaWNzjdBzLLN2NZy8lXMdd 8KEbJYliyrw7g==
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When i got mine from Joe Siam he told me that lubing before each race 
weekend is extreemely important.
RB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EDWARD BARNARD" <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>
To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" <info@dieselperformanceparts.com>; 
<fot@autox.team.net>; "Spitfire Racing" <Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles


> Russ:
>   Yes, as you said they have changed hands...many times. When I designed 
> them
> after our meet at MO in 2002, Mrs Summers still owned the company, and
> retained it through the first two or three orders. After that it went to
> another group whom I had no problem getting good product from. After them, 
> in
> about 2006, it went to two guys with manufacturing backgrounds. It was at 
> this
> time that things started to fall apart. It took about 6-8 months to get 
> the
> last pair from these guys. It may have sold again since then.
>   Just to clarify things; Summers can build good stuff. When Joe Siam 
> started
> with his design, about the same time I was trying to get the last pair, 
> Joe
> was bringing his design out. His axles were being made by Summers, and we 
> were
> competing for production time. I don't know if Joe still uses Summers to 
> make
> the axles for his conversion, but, the axles were not the weak point of my
> design. It was the bearing change. Besides, Joe's axles are designed with 
> a
> much greater safety margin. The axles I designed filled a need until 
> someone
> was willing to jump in with something better.
> -Ed-
>
>
> --- On Thu, 1/17/13, Spitfire Racing <Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Spitfire Racing <Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles
> To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" <info@dieselperformanceparts.com>,
> fot@autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, January 17, 2013, 7:48 AM
>
>
> It's my understanding the company "Summers Brothers" has been sold a 
> number
> of times in the past 10-15 years. What they sell today is not what was 
> being
> offered back in the day. At one point their one piece axles were the stuff
> you could put on a coffee table in the living room as art work.
>
> Russ Moore
> Spitfire #49
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Diesel Performance Parts - Info
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:59 AM
> To: 'fot@autox.team.net'
> Subject: [Fot] Spitfire axles
>
> I have to agree with Ed Barnard, I am the guy that bought new Summers Bros
> axles on the advise of past buyers and they changed the design even again
> and didn't tell me. Currently I have a old SCCA Square tail that I loved 
> to
> race that is in 1000 pieces as the axles failed at Savannah and I did 4.5
> rolls and that was in two different left and right directions. Luckily it
> was on the back part of the track vs the long last turn sweeper at WFO in
> 4th gear or the slow down for the 1 corner. I might not be able to type 
> this
> if it had been there.
> I am currently converting this car to GT6 type axles with CV joints.
> Hopefully it will work out great. With the GT6 stuff even if an axle 
> breaks
> the wheel stays verticle and you can drive out of the situation safely.
>
> Mark Craig
> Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
> 411 Allied Drive
> Nashville, TN 37211
> 866-455-7788 Phone
> 615-834-9923 Fax
>
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
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