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Re: [Fot] Fw: Liner Protrusion?

To: "Tim Murphy" <timmurph@fastbytes.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Liner Protrusion?
From: Bill Babcock <billbab@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:39:51 -0700
I always deburr the figure eight gaskets, and I give the liners a  
whack with a lead hammer to seat them. Seems to make a difference.
On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Tim Murphy wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Murphy" <timmurph@fastbytes.com>
> To: <rikrock@aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Liner Protrusion?
>
>
>> I'm just in the process of doing this myself on a TR4 motor.  The
>> protrusion that I have with the stock figure 8's is:
>>
>> #1  Manifold side  0.002  Camshaft side  0.005
>> #2  Manifold side  0.002  Camshaft side  0.004
>> #3  Manifold side  0.002  Camshaft side  0.004
>> #4  Manifold side  0.004  Camshaft side  0.005
>>
>> I'm using the composite (Payen) head gasket.  I'll use either  
>> Permatex
>> Aircraft Form-a-Gasket or Permatex Indian Head Gasket Shellac,  
>> whichever
>> feels and looks thinner at the time.
>>
>> Note that on the figure 8 gaskets I found a little burr on the edge  
>> from
>> the dies when they are stamped out.  I stoned the gaskets and this  
>> reduced
>> the protrusion by about 0.002 inch.  I made the measurements with the
>> sleeve clamped in to the block on opposite sides with washers,  
>> spacers and
>> the head nuts (had to use toe clamps from the milling machine to  
>> reach #2
>> and #3). Prior to clamping and measuring I did "seat" the sleeves per
>> Kas's book.  I haven't measured the thickness of the figure 8's, just
>> measured protrusion. Did mark all sleeves for bore hole and  
>> direction of
>> insertion as well as marking figure 8's and position in block  
>> bores.  Also
>> cleaned the block "seat" by wire brushing, emery cloth and then  
>> cleaned
>> with lacquer thinner.
>>
>> Tim
>> 1961 TR4 #317
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <rikrock@aol.com>
>> To: <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:21 PM
>> Subject: [Fot] Liner Protrusion?
>>
>>
>>> Amici,
>>>
>>> I'm building a new TR4 motor.? Planning to use a steel shim  
>>> headgasket.?
>>> Along with the shaved head, compression ratio will be aprrox. 11:1.
>>>
>>> With the new 89mm liners clamped down lightly on top of dry figure 8
>>> gaskets which measure .0145" thick, cylinders 1, 2, and 3
>>> liner?protrusion measures between .003" and .004".? Cylinder #4
>>> protrusion measures between .005" and .006".? My question is....  
>>> what are
>>> the chances the steel shim headgasket? will seal properly with these
>>> heights and variation?
>>>
>>> Further, what do you like to use for sealer on the (steel) figure  
>>> 8's and
>>> steel shim gaskets?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Rich Rock
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