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Re: Points deductions, concours

To: Bill Sohl <billsohl@smtp.interactive.net>
Subject: Re: Points deductions, concours
From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@q1.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:09:57 -0500
Bill Sohl wrote:
> 
> Bob Lang wrote:
> > > Check out the bids thus far on the pair of Lucas
> > > sealed beam headlamps -- the ones where it is plainly noted that the low
> > > beam freakin' filaments DON'T WORK! (Hello, is this the way we all equip
> > > our "show" cars?)
> >
> > I think folks should spend umpteen dollars for _JUNK_, because I'd love
> > to be a concours judge for a car that had non-functioning lights.
> >
> > It would make those "gas station conversations" with "concours experts"
> > just that much more enjoyable. You see, one of my buddies from CT ranked
> > the judging for the early TR6's in Portland, ME about the class winner...
> > and I was the very judge that this person was criticizing. Talk about
> > rectal-cranial inversions. Anyway - the general point was related to the
> > max. points off for any one item... and even though the underhood details
> > were not exactly correct, they weren't exactly wrong...
> >
> > The point is - if a concours car has non-functioning headlights, then
> > they deserve max. points off regardless of whether they are the correct
> > bulbs. Sheesh.
> 
> I absolutely agree.  Way back in 1981 when we first
> instituted the VTR driving requirement for concours,
> we also did a basic functional check and didn't
> even pass a car that would have otherwise failed
> a most basic state inspection test.  Creampuff cars with
> headlights, taillights, stoplights, etc that don't
> work are a disgrace to all of us.
> 
> I recall a conversation I had with a concour entrant
> at a meet in TX one year who admitted that he
> had shown his car for the past 4 years and NEVER
> had to start the engine at all during that time.  He
> trailered the car everywhere, rolled it off the trailer
> to his spot on the car show field, and then wenched
> it back onto the trailer.  The car was finally started
> after 4 years because the VTR event required the
> owner to pass a functional check which included
> lites, guages, etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bill Sohl
when the judged cars are better than anything we had in our showroom
new, they should also be awarded over-the-edge demerit points. we sold
these cars new and know how good they weren't.  maybe real points for
real cars should be the judging criteria. example, we sold most of the
cars without radios but occasionally someoen would want a radio.  if
they wanted the oem radio, be it bmc or standard triumph, we would
install it. if they didn't care what radio, there wer ebetter ones on
the market so we would use one of those.  now, this brand x radio was
priced on their original invoice from our delareship.  if years later
they show up at a meet, should they be docked points for this radio? 
certainly not. it came with the car from an authroized dealer. this goes
on and on. ted
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