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Re: anyone have this titan problem

To: Ronnie Day <rday@hot.rr.com>
Subject: Re: anyone have this titan problem
From: Pat Horne <pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu>
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:04:54 -0600
I used to have troubles with the brake drums warping on my '58 VW, the 
early style with the very large bolt circle. I always had shops install 
the lug nuts by hand, but allowed tem to use the guns to take them off.

Peace,
Pat

Ronnie Day wrote:

>I wonder how much warpage, if any, is caused buy the guys at the tire stores
>cranking the lug nut torque to 80 lb/ft in a single step? Think about it,
>you've got four or five lugs and they tighten one straight to 80 followed by
>the rest. They get a bit miffed because it slows them down, but I stand
>there and make them do it in three steps, 30 60 and then 80. Am I paranoid?
>I prefer the term picky.  ;>)
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>Am I sure it makes any difference? No, but it certainly doesn't hurt,
>either. We don't run anything else held down by multiple fasteners, like
>heads, to their max torque in one step. Why should wheels be any different.
>Having one nut tightened all the way and the others not at all may not be
>good for the mounting surfaces on the wheels either.
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>FWIW,
>Ron D
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>>Ford has the same problem if you replace the brakes and turn the rotors
>>instead of replacing them.  In a few thousand miles you will get a nice
>>jerking stop whenever you apply the brakes.
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>>This is a nice feature in a luxury ground transportation car.  You spend
>>$560.00 for a four wheel brake job, including turning the disks, and then go
>>back in 5-10,000 miles (one month or less) and have new rotors installed.  I
>>suspect that the disks are not designed to properly dissipate heat and just
>>warp from excess heat caused by normal use.  In truth this is the only real
>>maintenance problem I have seen in these cars.
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>>Now that our 2003 models have exceeded 200,000 miles they are driving just
>>fine with a minimum of maintenance required.  Even the 2002 with well over
>>300,000 is a good driving car with only slightly higher maintenance needs.
>>Unlike the 6" longer (factory option) 2003's, the standard size 2002 can be
>>fun in corners when I need to get there quickly without a passenger in the
>>car.....
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>>Before you think I am getting on Ford, I won't even start on the two 2004
>>GMC Denali's I drive....  Now I understand why we don't see many Cadillac's
>>in ground transportation service.  Clients with late model Mercedes are
>>complaining about the amount of time their cars are spending in the dealers
>>garage instead of theirs.
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>>Ron
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>>my new Nissan Titan Truck has a brake warpage problem and 3rd time into the
>>dealer
>>to change out parts,  but problem still exists,, the Rotors heat up and warp
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>>brakes are good but near end of stopping just grab and fade ,,  don't know
>>why
>>Nissan with all their good past record can't find a fix for this,,,






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