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Re: aerodynamics of racing?

To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, twalter@austin.rr.com, wschaibe@ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: aerodynamics of racing?
From: "David A. Fox" <dafox1@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:22:48 -0400
Yes, they're called Flexdams.  I had one on a 280Z I owned.  It was very 
forgiving.  Parking curbs seem to be much higher than first thought, 
especially when driving a lowered car.

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----Original Message Follows----
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Reply-To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
To: "Thomas Walter" <twalter@austin.rr.com>,   "William Schairer"  
<wschaibe@ucsd.edu>
CC: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: aerodynamics of racing?
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:24:07 -0400

Tom,

I think they are called Flexdams and are still being made. They were real
big in the 70s. They are a good idea.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Walter" <twalter@austin.rr.com>
To: "William Schairer" <wschaibe@ucsd.edu>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: aerodynamics of racing?


 > Chaperral.  Yes, Jim Hall's team. Big "sucker fans" on the rear.
 > If the fan, or fan drive, failed at speed the car would leave
 > the track very rapidly. Something only from a Texan... ;-)
 >
 > Who made the "two piece" air damn's? Upper fiberglass, lower is
 > stiff rubber. I found one in my closet I had forgotten about (510
 > item). Hmm, actually don't even remember when I bought it. Alas,
 > gave a friend a Momo steering wheel hub for his Datsun as I had
 > no use for it. Guess what I also finally found... the Momo wheel,
 > sans Hub.
 >
 > I need to clean my closets out more often.
 >
 > When I pulled out the carpet kit for Rodney, which went with the
 > car. Suddenly I discovered I had TWO carpet kits. One for a '67
 > another for a '68. I shipped both to Mike with the car, as I'll
 > let him figure it out.
 >
 > More stuff for eBay. ;-)
 >
 > Tom Walter
 > Austin, TX
 >
 >
 >
 > William Schairer wrote:
 >
 > > Wasn't there some guy, Jim Hall maybe, who designed an indy car that
 > > actually sucked the air out from underneath the car to create a
 > > vacuum.  Even though I have never been into racing much, I remember
 > > it being a big controversy.  In the only race of that type I've ever
 > > been to,  I saw it race at Ontario back in the late 60's.  The car
 > > didn't finish and I think was banned the next year.
 > >
 > > Bill
 > > San Diego
 > >
 > >
 > >>...and the reason why that is A Good Thing is that the underside of a
normal
 > >>car is a very untidy, drag-inducing kind of place. Routing the air
around the
 > >>car (with a little diverted to the front brakes for cooling) reduces
 > >>drag. When
 > >>you get into purpose-built racing cars (Formula cars of various
 > >>ilks, etc.) the
 > >>smooth bottom reduces or obviates the need for an air dam. I think that
it was
 > >>in F1 (or maybe indy cars - I can't remember) some years back that some
very
 > >>clever fellows used specifically-shaped channels in the bottom of the
car to
 > >>accelerate the flow of air under the bottom of the car, increasing its
 > >>velocity, which decreases its pressure, creating  a negative delta P, 
or
 > >>downforce.
 > >>
 > >>Gary McCormick
 > >>San Jose, CA
 > >>
 > >>CalSpeed@aol.com wrote:
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>> In a message dated 8/29/01 6:08:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
 > >>> 9laser3@bright.net writes:
 > >>>
 > >>> > Looking for some on line help understanding the benefits of an air
dam and
 > >>> > the best way to install one on a roadster?
 > >>> >
 > >>> >
 > >>>
 > >>> The airdam redirects the air around the car rather then it traveling
 > >>>
 > >> > underneath.  For the best airdam contact Les or Dennis at CDM.
 > >> >
 > >> > Calspeed


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