Sid, Yep, I knew that Bristol has an oval track, you know NASCAR, go
fast turn left. But, I thought that if we had the chance, we could do
more.\
Mike F
----- Original Message -----
From: "sidney raper" <spl310@hotmail.com>
To: <mikef@carolina.rr.com>; <datsunroadsters@egroups.com>;
<Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [datsunroadsters] ALL DATSUN! (long)
> Mike,
>
> You aren't a Nascar fan, are you. Bristol Raceway is there! It is
an oval
> (sigh.)
>
> Sid
>
>
> >From: "Mike Faggart" <mikef@carolina.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: "Mike Faggart" <mikef@carolina.rr.com>
> >To: <datsunroadsters@egroups.com>, "Roadsters \(E-mail\)"
> ><Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: [datsunroadsters] ALL DATSUN! (long)
> >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:11:36 -0500
> >
> >Phil, Bristol is nice, I wonder if there is a track anywhere where
we
> >could go play?
> >
> >Mike Faggart
> >68 2L
> >SEROC
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Hall, Phillip" <phillip.hall@msfc.nasa.gov>
> >To: <datsunroadsters@egroups.com>; "Roadsters (E-mail)"
> ><Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:13 PM
> >Subject: [datsunroadsters] ALL DATSUN! (long)
> >
> >
> > > Hey Chris and all -
> > >
> > > No flames here. On the East Coast event - I have been talking
to
> >Paul Kort,
> > > and the guys at MADROC about setting something up next year.
The TN
> >town of
> > > Bristol has come up as an "in between" place to meet. Also, the
> >first of
> > > June seems to be agreeing with everyone's schedule. I would
very
> >much
> > > welcome your thoughts so we can get this ironed out the first of
the
> >year.
> > > SEROC will work very hard to make this happen!!!
> > >
> > > We at SEROC welcome all Datsuns. There is not one Roadster
owner
> >that would
> > > not love to have a Z or 510. I would say that we open the East
> >Coast event
> > > to all Datsuns. I feel that if we can get the East Coast event
> >underway
> > > with all Datsuns, like Shasta, then the possibilities of a
National
> >Datsun
> > > Rally is much closer. As is an all Datsun magazine and National
> >club. Some
> > > Z car owners might not like Roadsters, but I think most
appreciate
> >our cars
> > > as much as we like the Z. If we show we can be united and
ignore
> >people
> > > that are disruptive in nature, we can help to get all Datsuns
> >together.
> > >
> > > All the ROCs across this country (world) would love to get
together.
> >The
> > > logistics of this is hard, but a National Rally is doable. A
> >National
> > > Registry is well under way (thanks to Roman Rist and Mark Dent)
and
> >should
> > > be pushed for more participation. I am as guilty at the rest
for
> >not
> > > pushing this harder. With the registry we have essentially
started
> >the
> > > National Roadster club, which then could be incorporated into a
> >National
> > > Datsun club and event. I don't know the workings of
> >starting/publishing a
> > > magazine, but as we get closer to a National Datsun movement,
> >someone that
> > > is in the right position to start a magazine will step forward.
The
> >guys
> > > against it will be left hanging.
> > >
> > > I have been on this list for a year and it is wonderful!!!! But
> >like Chris
> > > said, lets get together - clubs, vendors, owners. The Roadster
> >people are
> > > GREAT and if we act as ambassadors of all Datsun cars we can
make a
> > > difference - people will come to us! I congratulate Mike,
Doug,
> >Calspeed,
> > > and others for "crossing the fence" - we all need to do more of
> >this.
> > > Remember - we are DATSUN then ROADSTER, DATSUN then 510, DATSUN
then
> >Z.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the ranting - must be the snowy, cold nonRoadstering
> >weather.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > SEROC
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Orocrodstr@aol.com [SMTP:Orocrodstr@aol.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:55 AM
> > > To: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net;
> > > datsunroadsters@egroups.com
> > > Subject: [datsunroadsters] Sport Z, Zdriver soapbox Long!
> > >
> > > At the risk of fanning the flames I have decided to comment on
this
> > > and the
> > > state of the datsun community.
> > >
> > > Sport Z: Why would you ignore a market that would expand your
> > > subscriber base
> > > with only a slight change in format? There are several writers
out
> > > there who
> > > have done Roadster and 510 articles. It wouldn't take much to
put
> > > them in the
> > > magazine.
> > > This magazine E-mailed me at the club web site to ask about
writers.
> > > I did
> > > put him in touch with some. I also indicated my support for the
> > > magazine. I
> > > have heard nothing about the mag. until the posts on the lists.
As
> > > head of a
> > > 90+ members club, I can get the word out about these things yet
I
> > > seem to
> > > have been ignored!
> > >
> > > Zdriver.com: An article was written about our Mid Ohio Vintage
event
> > > in June.
> > > I invited the author to the party that OROC sponsored and
arranged
> > > for a ride
> > > during the parade laps. The article didn't even get the club
name
> > > correct!
> > >
> > > I have made several attempts over the last few years to organize
> > > and/or
> > > support a National Datsun community. These actions have resulted
in
> > > a
> > > bombardment of negative e-mails and very little support. Others
that
> > > have
> > > tried to do the same thing have gotten the same results. There
is
> > > constant
> > > arguing about this or that. There is no community! We are
> > > fragmented and
> > > heading in different directions.
> > >
> > > ZCCD: My wife and I did everything we possibly could to help
Mark
> > > make this a
> > > success. He came from with in. He is a Datsun nut like the rest
of
> > > us. This
> > > magazine was probably doomed from the time he took it over due
to
> > > poor
> > > business practices by the previous owners. My hats off the Mark
for
> > > his HUGE
> > > sacrifice to try and make it go!
> > >
> > > I will support any national or east coast event that we can. We
> > > certainly
> > > make sure the our club members know about everything. If we want
> > > support from
> > > Nissan lets get together on it. The other vendors that support
> > > Datsuns are
> > > not getting rich from this. Each time you purchase something for
> > > your vehicle
> > > you make a choice where to spend the money. How long can our
vendors
> > > stay in
> > > business if we don't spend money with them when we can. If we
want a
> > > magazine
> > > to cover more than Z's lets get together on it. If we want the
> > > respect we
> > > deserve from other car marques we have to present our selves
better!
> > >
> > >
> > > I am sorry for being so long winded but I tired of the talk and
no
> > > action.
> > > Yes, I am an opinionated sob but those that have need around me
know
> > > that
> > > when something needs done I WILL get it done. We must come
together
> > > on all of
> > > these issues! If we expect the support of magazines and vendors
so
> > > we can
> > > continue to enjoy Datsuns, they must know that WE will support
them.
> > > Not
> > > everything is perfect but if you don't participate in making
them
> > > better you
> > > have no right to complain!
> > >
> > > I'm off my soap box know.
> > > Body armor is on.
> > >
> > > Chris Luers
> > > OROC
> > >
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