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Re: [Fwd: Ford Explorer Tires (Non Roadster

To: Gordon Glasgow <glasgow@serv.net>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ford Explorer Tires (Non Roadster
From: Russell Southwell <rulee@cityscape.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:54:05 -0700
I had an S 10 Blazer that would go anywhere, sure went thru that Stae Park sign
sideways and backwards, never did get all the glass out of it. not enough heater
in a snow storm with all that glass missing.kinda like  the roadster with out 
the top.
Russ Southwell 70 1600

Gordon Glasgow wrote:

> I thought this was kinda strange advice, too. Maybe what they are trying to 
>do is to reduce the
> traction enough that you won't be able to build up the lateral G's necessary 
>to roll it.
>
> I may be biased, but I see any SUV as a rollover looking for a place to 
>happen. Sure, there are
> exceptional drivers out there who can handle one fine. I've heard wild 
>stories about Bob Bondurant
> taking a load of students around the track in a 9-passenger van and DRIFTING 
>IT through the turns,
> but not everyone is a Bondurant.
>
> svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote:
>
> > Maybe some of the racer/gurus out there can speak more definitively on this 
>subject, but
> > it seems to me that softer tires would exacerbate the tendency to roll - 
>based on this
> > line of logic: The high CG placement of these vehicles means there is a 
>longer moment arm
> > between the center of mass and the tire contact patch; the large mass 
>acting through this
> > distance results in a large (and aptly-named) overturning moment. Any 
>increase in
> > flexibility in the structures (suspension, that is shocks/struts, and 
>tires) that resist
> > this overturning moment results in higher deflection angles; that is - 
>greater
> > displacement of the CG from center and a greater tendency to ROLL OVER!
> >
> > It is exactly the combination of high CG, large mass and soft suspension 
>that makes SUVs
> > so roof-happy, especially in avoidance maneuvers at speed, when a high rate 
>steering input
> > combined with the vehicle's velocity create very high forces acting against 
>the cushy
> > suspension systems these vehicle are typically equipped with. The sudden 
>inputs required
> > to correct for a blown tire are an example of what to do if you want to put 
>your typical
> > SUV on it's roof. If it were me, I'd crank the pressure up to reduce tire 
>body heating on
> > my way to the tire store to buy some Michelins...
> >
> > Gay McCormick
> > San Jose, CA
> >
> > Pamela Pepoy wrote:
> >
> > > [snip] However,
> > > Ford says to only inflate them to 30 psi (soft to avoid the Explorer's
> > > inclination to tip over and roll).  Firestone says to inflate them to 35
> > > psi to stop them from heating up and peeling off like a bannana skin and
> > > also causing the Explorer to roll.  So,  my NEW, SAFE family vehicle is
> > > an unsafe, certified turkey.[snip]
> > > Guy
> > > 67.5 SPL311
> > > Tempe, AZ
> > >
> > > --------------42B278C8638BE7302B0EB185--
>
> --
> Gordon Glasgow
> http://www.gordon-glasgow.org


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