I was amazed to see anyone address a list with such venom and poor taste.
Out of curiosity, I ran his name on my web browser, and was quite surprised
and apalled (sp?) to see that Mr. Dever is in a position of leadership in
some areas of the California Z scene. I am VERY glad we do not have to deal
with him in Roadster circles! I am very surprised that he doesn't realize
that anyone is a potential customer, even a lowly Roadster owner.
We probably speak too freely at times about other cars and groups, not
realizing that someone might choose to pass on our comments. But, I would
expect a rebuttal to carry some level of personal dignity and respect for
the group being addressed.
Robin Krause
1968.5 1600
Redmond Wa
>From: Gordon Glasgow <glasgow@serv.net>
>Reply-To: Gordon Glasgow <glasgow@serv.net>
>To: charlie dever <zcars@prodigy.net>
>CC: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>, Marc Sayer
><msayer1@concentric.net>
>Subject: Re: slanderous comments
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:32:15 -0700
>
>Better look closer at which buttons you click on your email program,
>Charlie. I'm not the one who
>posted this. In fact, I'm the one who raised the question about whether you
>might have had a
>business deal with Mr. K. Your lack of care, combined with your insults and
>threats, have convinced
>me there is only one appropriate thing to do:
>
>I'm cc'ing the roadster mailing list and Marc Sayer so they can see what
>type of person you are.
>
>Before you decide to throw excrement into a fan, check to see which way the
>fan is pointing. Have a
>nice day.
>
>charlie dever wrote:
>
> > Aloha!!
> >
> > Get a LIFE!!
> >
> > Well get off your high horse and realize that these were SERIEGRAPHED
>PRINTS
> > SOLD WITH MR K'S personal signature on each, and his approval for sale
>to Z
> > car fans as fundraisers for the ZCCA in 1996. I had a few left over that
>I
> > just purchased from Universal Nissan - the Z store, and was selling them
>to
> > Z fans that didn't get them in 1996.
> >
> > Yes, I have a special deal with Mr. K. He is my friend, Im in the third
> > picture in his book as a tribute to my efforts for him and the Z car
>world.
> > I did not get Mr. K to sign but two shirts for friends at Doheny. I call
> > the man every week, If I need him to sign something, I can ship it to
>him
> > and he will do that for me.
> >
> > Be careful who you care to piss off with your stupid comments and
>slander of
> > MY BUSINESS AND LIVELIHOOD, because I will take you down for those
> > slanderous comments, be VERY SURE!!
> >
> > Very truly awaiting another crack against me,
> >
> > Charlie Dever
> >
> > www.SunsetZ.com
> >
> > Call me with your comments, or give me your number, and I'll tell you
>where
> > you can put it.
> >
> > THIS IS THE SAD MESSAGE THAT INITIATED ALL OF THIS!!:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just found something on the internet that is quite disturbing. The
> > attached link is to a company that sells Z associated stuff which
>includes
> > cars and parts and memorabilia.
> >
> > www.SunsetZ.com
> >
> > On one of their pages thier are some Datsun collectables that are
> > autographed
> > by Mr. Katayama or better known as Mr.K, the Father of the Z Car. It
>appears
> > that they are selling these items with his signature.
> >
> > If I remember correctly, Mr.K was a guest to Les' Classic Datsun
>Motorsports
> > show at Doheney last year. Mr. K, close to 80 years old. He sat in the
> > Southern California heat for two sessions of over two hours each signing
> > autographs for free. He signed t-shirts, books, mousepads, car parts,
> > anything. And yes he did it all for free.
> >
> > I am very sure that he was not doing any other signing sessions anywhere
> > else
> > during his visits to the States. And I am sure that CDM and ZONC, the Z
> > Owners of NorCal can back me up on that statement. And if he did I am
>very
> > sure that he wasn't charging for the signatures.
> >
> > I am appalled that a Z shop would have the nerve to sell his autographs.
>I
> > don't know how others feel about this but I find it very disrespectful
>to a
> > fine gentleman.
> >
> > Michael "Calspeed" Carion
> > 67.5 SRL311-000248 Solex
>
>--
>Gordon Glasgow
>http://www.gordon-glasgow.org
>
>
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