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Re: The continuing saga

To: Chris & Kelly Sharp <4sharps@cox.net>
Subject: Re: The continuing saga
From: "James J." <m1garand@speakeasy.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:50:55 -0500
Chris,
    What leads you to believe it is the pistons and not a valve 
problem?  Take the heads off and see if the combustion chambers will 
hold a solvent?  Rover exhaust valves crud up so bad that the factory 
changed the design a few years back.  A valve de-coking wont be that 
bad, and you could hand-lap the valves again, too.  Don't worry about 
the Rover vs. a bow-tie engine.  These are tough little blocks.  If they 
weren't,  you wouldn't find Land Rover's all over the 3rd world where 
pavement and proper maintenance are non-existant.  Aside from gumming up 
if they are only driven short distances, there's precious little to 
complain about.

A funny story: My machinist runs the U. of Maryland I.C.E. lab above his 
shop, and he was telling me that Rover sent over some of their engineers 
to study on his wet and dry flow benches and cam laboratory in the early 
90's.  They complained about their exhaust valves coking up and not 
sealing properly.  He casualy showed them the valve design used in many 
GM and Ford engines that is designed to break the carbon off the stems.  
He then mumbled to me aloud, wondering if they ever used that idea.  We 
both kind of shrugged and went back to looking at my 300 heads.  A few 
days later, my factory Rover service manual came and it showed the "new" 
carbon-breaker valve which is standard on all late-model engines and is 
to be refit to all rebuilt heads.  Neither he nor I are claiming that he 
was the only source of this info for Rover, but if you look at the 
parties involved, you can chuckle wondering if that was how the idea 
made it across the Atlantic.
JJJ

Chris & Kelly Sharp wrote:

>Fellow Wedge-ophiles-
>
>What started as a "just get it going and enjoy" has now turned a little
>sour.  The results from my compression test are in and not pretty....
>
>1   95
>2  105
>3  112
>4  100
>5  120
>6   95
>7  100
>8   45 (yes, 45...)
>
>(sigh)
>
>I was hoping to get away w/ a bearing and timing chain swap but now I guess
>I'm going to have to spring for the big chicken dinner.  Since the oil pan
>was off, I peeked up into the cylinders and they don't appear to be scored,
>which is somewhat comforting.
>
>I've been through this before w/ several engines, but I'm still not real
>comfortable w/ the all aluminum Rover engine.  If this was just another rat
>motor, I'd just hone the pistons, re-ring, and maybe a valve job.  Any
>chance of getting away with that on this motor or should I just plan on
>yanking the block and building it up from scratch.  Any experiences in this
>would be appriciated about now.
>
>Chris Sharp
>'64 Spitfire4  At least it runs
>'80 TR8        Quickly becoming a money pit....

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