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Re: [PreWar] are these lists still alive ?

To: Malcolm <masquith@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [PreWar] are these lists still alive ?
From: Adrian Twelvetrees <twelvetrees@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:54:38 +0000
My worry would be whether or not the Singer wheels would take the  
extra torque from the later engine.

Best,

Roger


On 17 Mar 2010, at 09:17, Malcolm wrote:

> It is a very long time since I sent anything to this list and am  
> not sure if I am doing it correctly but here goes -
>
> The dry weight of an MGA engine is 359 pounds (including clutch)  
> and the gearbox weighs 67.25 pounds.  The MGB engine will be  
> slightly lighter as it has a larger bore.  The early MGB gearbox is  
> very similar so should be about the same.
>
> Malcolm
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour"  
> <mikey@b2systems.com>
> To: <british-cars@autox.team.net>; <british-cars-pre- 
> war@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:41 AM
> Subject: [PreWar] are these lists still alive ?
>
>
>> I have a question about my 1934 Singer, I have very serious  
>> concerns about the motor and I am considering a temporary engine  
>> swap.  The Singer is a 6cylinder 1.5litre car, I have free access  
>> to a late 1960's or extremely early 1970's MGB that is pretty much  
>> a running rust bucket parts donor.  I am going to assume that its  
>> a 1800cc motor but anyone know the weight of the motor also motor  
>> and trans ?
>>
>> The Singer wheel track is 4'4" front and rear and according to the  
>> internet the MGB is 4.125 for the rear, I would have to put the  
>> Singer's 18" wire wheels on the MGB's rear axle.  Would that track  
>> difference be a issue on the handling of the car ? since its wire  
>> wheels I am not sure I could put in spacers like you would on a  
>> steel rims.
>>
>> My thinking is to butcher this extremely rare 1934 Singer and put  
>> in the MGB drivetrain while I get the Singer motor redone, that  
>> will take some serious cash, the block is cracked, I have to have  
>> pistons made, babbitt bearings poured and its all going to be very  
>> expensive.  I would not want to do any permanent butchering of the  
>> Singer, anything and everything I do would have to be reversable  
>> when I finish the proper motor but it gets it on the road for now.
>>
>> Both rear ends are leaf springs so I don't see a issue there, the  
>> engine compartment is quite roomy for the 6 cylinder so the MG 4  
>> should fit very nicely (not measured anything yet), I could weld  
>> up motor mounts that minimize the damage to the Singer or better  
>> yet do no damage.  The only "gotcha" I have at this time would be  
>> the clutch and brake pedal assembly and mixing the MG rear brakes  
>> with the Singer front brakes, I have to check on that as I don't  
>> even like the sound of it, but I should be able to take the MG  
>> front axle back plates and put them on the Singer, so I am back to  
>> just the pedal assembly without damaging the Singer chassis.
>>
>> I have all the cool toys to do this with, lathe, mill, welders,  
>> etc.  I just don't have the engine/drivetrain switching knowledge,  
>> never done that YET but it does not look too hard.  Well I have  
>> started it on another car but its not finished yet.
>>
>>    mike
>
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