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Thanks - I am printing copies to carry in my cars.
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Roger D. Gisseman, Ph.D.
Associate Director
Youth Services
177 W. Price Ave.
SLC, UT 84115
385-468-4531
http://www.youth.slco.org<http://www.facebook.com/YouthServicesSLC>
http://www.facebook.com/YouthServicesSLC
http://twitter.com/youthserviceSLC
http://youthservicesslc.wordpress.com/
From: bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net] On B=
ehalf Of Maclean, Jon A
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:22 AM
To: bmcu@autox.team.net; Lindamood, Dennis E
Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DPS Feedback
Good morning all
This is from the Utah State Highway Patrol for a safety inspection certific=
ate for your vehicle registered as a vintage
Jon A. Mac Lean
Boeing GMATS Tech
Layton, Utah.
801-678-6319
801-315-2432
jon.a.maclean@boeing.com
From: Troy Marx [mailto:tmarx@utah.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:51 PM
To: Maclean, Jon A
Subject: Re: DPS Feedback
Jon,
Thank you for using our web-based feed back forum.
I am Lt. Marx with the Highway Patrol and currently over the safety inspect=
ion program.
You are correct that vintage vehicles do not need a safety inspection. All=
that is needed is for it to be properly registered.
The confusion probably comes from Utah Code 41-1a-226, which says, "The own=
er of a vintage vehicle applying for registration under this part shall pro=
vide a signed statement certifying that the vintage vehicle is owned and op=
erated for the purposes enumerated in Section 41-21-1<http://le.utah.gov/~c=
ode/TITLE41/htm/41_21_000100.htm> and that the vintage vehicle has been ins=
pected and found safe to operate on the highways of this state."
This is just the owner of the vehicle testifying to this, not an official i=
nspection.
Utah Code 41-21-1 gives the definition of a Vintage Vehicle.
Code 41-21-4 says, "The provisions of this title relating to minimum safety=
equipment are not applicable to vehicles properly registered under Title 4=
1, Chapter 1a, Part 2, Registration, so long as the original equipment, on =
the vehicle at the time of its manufacture, is in good operating condition =
or has been replaced by equal or more efficient equipment in good working o=
rder and the vehicle is not operated in a manner or at a time that would co=
nstitute a public nuisance or create a hazard to other automobiles or perso=
ns."
Basically, as long as you properly register the vehicle and it meets the re=
quirements for a vintage vehicle, there is no inspection needed and no cert=
ificate other than a registration issued by the state.
Hopefully this helps. Please contact me anytime if you have any other ques=
tions or concerns.
Troy
Lieutenant Troy Marx
Utah Highway Patrol
Vehicle Safety Section
Office: 801-965-4889
Cell: 435-830-2511
Email: tmarx@utah.gov
>>> <jon.a.maclean@boeing.com> 7/20/2011 2:23 PM >>>
>From :
jon.a.maclean@boeing.com
Name :
jon maclean
Phone :
801.678.6319
Resident :
Utah Resident
Pertaining To: :
Other
Message :
the utah DMV said you can answer this question. I have a
car registered as a Vintage Vehicle. according to UCA 53-8-2
05 para 1(b) (iii) vintage vehicles are not required to get
a safety inspection certificate. But i keep hearing from my
car club members that Utah requires a current certificate
be keep in the vehicles when on the road. Is this true and
if so can you provde a reference.This will clear up a lot
of uncertainty within my car club.
Thank you
Send :
Send
Senders IP Address : 130.76.64.109
Senders Host Name : 130.76.64.109
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ot;;color:#1F497D">Roger D. Gisseman, Ph.D.<br>
<i>Associate Director</i><br>
Youth Services<br>
177 W. Price Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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385-468-4531<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tah=
oma","sans-serif""> bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:bmcu=
-bounces@autox.team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maclean, Jon A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bmcu@autox.team.net; Lindamood, Dennis E<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bmcu] FW: DPS Feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Good morning all<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This is from the Utah Sta=
te Highway Patrol for a safety inspection certificate for your vehicl=
e registered as a vintage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jon A. Mac Lean</span><span=
style=3D"color:#1F497D">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Boeing GMATS Tech</span><span style=3D"colo=
r:#1F497D">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Layton, Utah.</span><span style=3D"color:#1=
F497D">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif";color:#1F497D">801-678-6319</span><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif";color:#1F497D">801-315-2432</span><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif";color:#1F497D">jon.a.maclean@boeing.com</span><span style=
=3D"color:#1F497D">
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t;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tah=
oma","sans-serif""> Troy Marx [mailto:tmarx@utah.gov]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Maclean, Jon A<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DPS Feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">Thank you for using our web-based feed back forum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">I am Lt. Marx with the Highway Patrol and currently over the safety insp=
ection program.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">You are correct that vintage vehicles do not need a safety inspection.&n=
bsp; All that is needed is for it to be properly registered.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">The confusion probably comes from Utah Code 41-1a-226, which says, "=
;The owner of a vintage vehicle applying for registration under
this part shall provide a signed statement certifying that the vintage veh=
icle is owned and operated for the purposes enumerated in Section
<b><a href=3D"http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE41/htm/41_21_000100.htm";>41-21-=
1</a></b>
<span style=3D"color:red">and that the vintage vehicle <u>has been inspecte=
d</u> and found safe to operate on the highways of this state."</span>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">This is just the owner of the vehicle testifying to this, not an officia=
l inspection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">Utah Code 41-21-1 gives the definition of a Vintage Vehicle.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">Code 41-21-4 says, "The provisions of this title relating to minimu=
m safety equipment are not applicable to vehicles properly registered
under Title 41, Chapter 1a, Part 2, Registration, so long as the original =
equipment, on the vehicle at the time of its manufacture, is in good operat=
ing condition or has been replaced by equal or more efficient equipment in =
good working order and the vehicle
is not operated in a manner or at a time that would constitute a public nu=
isance or create a hazard to other automobiles or persons."<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
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le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
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le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">Basically, as long as you properly register the vehicle and it meets the=
requirements for a vintage vehicle, there is no inspection
needed and no certificate other than a registration issued by the state.&n=
bsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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;">Lieutenant Troy Marx<br>
Utah Highway Patrol<br>
Vehicle Safety Section<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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;">Cell: 435-830-2511<br>
Email: tmarx@utah.gov<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
;">>>> <jon.a.maclean@boeing.com> 7/20/2011 2:23 PM >>=
><br>
>From :<br>
jon.a.maclean@boeing.com<br>
<br>
Name :<br>
jon maclean<br>
<br>
Phone :<br>
801.678.6319<br>
<br>
Resident :<br>
Utah Resident<br>
<br>
Pertaining To: :<br>
Other<br>
<br>
Message :<br>
the utah DMV said you can answer this question. I have a <br>
car registered as a Vintage Vehicle. according to UCA 53-8-2<br>
<br>
05 para 1(b) (iii) vintage vehicles are not required to get <br>
<br>
a safety inspection certificate. But i keep hearing from my <br>
<br>
car club members that Utah requires a current certificate <br>
be keep in the vehicles when on the road. Is this true and <br>
if so can you provde a reference.This will clear up a lot <br>
of uncertainty within my car club. <br>
Thank you<br>
<br>
Send :<br>
Send<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Senders IP Address : 130.76.64.109<br>
Senders Host Name : 130.76.64.109<br>
Sender returned to : null<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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