on 10/4/01 9:30 AM, Mark J. Andy at marka@telerama.com wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, John Kelly wrote:
>> We are in agreement. The solution achieved long ago was to mark our courses
>> here in the San Francisco area on both sides with gypsum (or white powder
>> of some kind) and thus nobody gets lost at speed. Our friends elsewhere
>> continued to utilize gate-style courses with no markings. This latter type
>> of course has two results,
>
> Hey, seems like some sorta intrastate rivalry, but just for those folks
> that don't leave SF... Every national event I've been to has had a lined
> course, including nationals this year. I find national level course
> _easier_ to follow because its relatively easy to pick out the key
> features as there aren't a ton of unimportant cones all over the damn
> place.
>
> They also use pointer cones. Personally, I think pointer cones are more
> important for not getting lost than a lined course. Lines disapear in the
> rain #1. #2, if you're running the course based on the white lines,
> chances are you're screwing it up. #3, white lines are hard to see at
> speed.
>
>> 1) beginners who get lost do not return;
>> 2) The club loses income;
>> 3) People who can figure out an unmarked course gain a false sense
>> of security because they are beating people who got lost.
>
> Wow. You much have some real whimps out here. :-)
>
>> I drove the National North course entirely in second gear and found it to
>> be greatly similar to the course we'd driven at Albany just before. Pat
>> drove the South course, also entirely in second gear. Thus I think the
>> speed levels this year were not much different than what we face at home.
>> That hasn't always been true and there has been a backlash against the
>> so-called "speed creep."
>
> FWIW, I was using 3rd gear on the South course in a cp mustang with a
> stock t5 and 3.73's. Last year on Frank's "way too fast" south course, I
> never got outta 2nd gear (stock t5, 3:55's). They were comparably fast
> IMHO.
>
> Just because I'm like this, I'd like to see what people would say if
> Nationals ran Frank's course from the past weekend's AAS event. Rev
> limiter in 3rd in a street tire miata :-) (6 speed, roughly 75mph) Oh,
> and before anyone starts whining, it was safe and AAS isn't affiliated
> with the SCCA.
>
> Mark
No whine, no cheese, just curious, what exactly are you learning about car
control at that point?
MJ
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