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Re: Cheap Gas?

To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Cheap Gas?
From: Bryan Medway <creative@razorlab.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:33:49 -0700
was it the car or the driver that was behind 6secs?

:bryan
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> From: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>
> Reply-To: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:55:25 -0700
> To: Bryan Medway <creative@razorlab.com>, mrclem@telocity.com,
> Nandaholz@aol.com, ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Cheap Gas?
> 
> i raced against that car at an autocross.  i think i beat it by like 6
> seconds.
> 
> pure electrics have lots of problems (although it has a trailer that is a
> generator)
> 
> -james
> 
> SP plus i made a lot more noise doing it :)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Medway <creative@razorlab.com>
> To: <mrclem@telocity.com>; James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>;
> <Nandaholz@aol.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Cheap Gas?
> 
> 
>> 
>> Speaking of electric cars with good performance..
>> 
>> check this puppy out..
>> 
>> http://www.acpropulsion.com/tzero_pages/tzero_home.htm
>> 
>> yum yum
>> 
>> :bryan
>> --
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
>>> Reply-To: mrclem@telocity.com
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:07:13 -0700
>>> To: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>, Nandaholz@aol.com,
>>> ba-autox@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: RE: Cheap Gas?
>>> 
>>> Yup, a perfectly flat torque curve is ideal for autocross. But electric
> power,
>>> when you include the batteries, still doesn't have the power to weight
> ratio
>>> of gasoline. This is especially noticeable in R/C airplanes, where you
> can get
>>> 1 hp glow fuel (nitromethane) engines that weigh about 8 ounces
> (normally
>>> aspirated). Lesse, that's 2 hp per pound, and I think even the S2000
> engine
>>> weighs more than 120 lbs. AFAIK, electricity can't beat that -- can it?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: James Creasy [mailto:black94pgt@pacbell.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:03
>>> To: mrclem@telocity.com; Nandaholz@aol.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: Cheap Gas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i think you could make a pretty cool hybrid car with super performance.
>>> have a gasoline motor for cruising and charging the battery pack,
> reclaim
>>> power under braking rather than wasting it as heat.
>>> 
>>> you could have a pretty small battery for light weight and a very
> powerful
>>> electric motor(s) to assist the gas motor.  electric motors are great
> for
>>> launches because they produce maximum torque at 0 RPM.
>>> 
>>> of course you might have only a few 0-60 in 2.5 seconds launches before
> the
>>> battery runs down and you need to cruise a bit to charge it back up, but
> by
>>> then the corvette will have given up.  maybe turn down the power for a
> few
>>> autocross runs.  talk about torque on demand!!
>>> 
>>> in fact, i see that our local honda hybrid (NOT a sports car) on street
>>> tires is a tiny tick behind a 127hp civic on R-tires in SFR!
>>> 
>>> -james
>>> 
>>> PS down with social engineering!

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