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SEB's response to classing the Elise

To: Bay Area AutoX <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: SEB's response to classing the Elise
From: Patrick Jones <axng4me@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
Charlie, et. al - Here's a note I received today from Howard Duncan
regarding the classification of the Elise in D-Modified.  It's fairly
frustrating and how people can even suggest the Elise runs in
A-Modified is beyond me.  If there are any other suggestion for me from
this group, I welcome them.  By the way, my first letter went to the
SEB in October, 2000 with no class ruling to date.  Sigh.

As for the near term, on Friday I was rear-ended fairly hard when I was
in my truck and have neck and back problems.  So, I won't be running
the 10th for sure and we'll see what the doc says tomorrow about going
forward.  I will do what I can to get my daughter there in her kart
though. :-)  Cheers.

patrick


--- Howard Duncan <HDuncan@scca.org> wrote:
> From: Howard Duncan <HDuncan@scca.org>
> To: 'Patrick Jones' <axng4me@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: Request to have the Elise classed in D/M
> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:12:50 -0600 
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> I just spoke with the chairman of the SEB's Modified Committee (MAC)
> to get
> the latest on their thinking regarding your car. I also spoke with
> the Tech
> Manager of Club Racing for some guidance from their perspective.
> 
> The MAC's position is the same as that previously stated by the
> Prepared
> Committee, that is that the car does not meet the definition of a
> production
> car under the current Solo Rules and is therefore, not eligible for D
> or E
> Modified. It was there belief that it would be eligible for either AM
> or in
> BM as an A Sports Racer (ASR).
> 
> However, in speaking with the Club Tech Manager he says they have
> already
> had this discussion on the racing side and the car is not eligible as
> a
> sports racer since it is a production based car somewhere in the
> world. The
> sports racer category is limited to strictly purpose built cars as
> they do
> not want the potential of a "true" sports racer running against
> potentially
> a 3000 pound Camaro that has been created as a sports racer by going
> beyond
> the rules for GT-1. Club Racing has addressed this issue by creating
> a
> region option class of Super Production. This allows regions the
> option of
> allowing production type cars with a variety of specifications to
> run, but
> keeping them separate from real sports racers.
> 
> For the short term this does not leave you many options for your
> upcoming
> Divisional, but does open up an idea for next year. For now, you are
> basically limited to either running the car as an AM car, or running
> under
> any supplemental class the Region/Division may have set up for the
> event,
> for which it meets the specs. For instance, they could at their
> option set
> up a Super Production class.
> 
> For the long term, this discussion with the Tech Manager led me to
> see a way
> that we might address this issue through consideration of a rule
> change for
> 2002 in which the Solo Rules acknowledges Super Production vehicles
> in
> Prepared and/or Modified. As you might imagine, your car is not alone
> in not
> fitting into the SCCA rules as they stand now.
> 
> Therefore, I am drafting today a letter to the SEB and their Prepared
> and
> Modified Committees that requests consideration of official
> acknowledgement
> of Super Production in their respective categories. This would be a
> rules
> change proposal for the future, because again, the current rules are
> specific on eligibility requirements being limited to US models for
> all Solo
> Categories.
> 
> I am sorry this process has been so long and drawn out, but the SEB
> and its
> various category committees have been answering the question based on
> the
> rules as they are, which they should, and no one has previouly seen a
> path
> for a rules change that could effectively adddress the general topic.
> There
> may be some problem with my approach as well, but I think it at least
> gives
> us a starting point with some SCCA precedent.
> 
> Thanks for your patience.
> 
> H.
> 
>   
> Howard Duncan
> SCCA Rally/Solo Project Manager
> 303-779-6622, FAX 303-694-3654
> 1-800-770-2055
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Jones [mailto:axng4me@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:56 AM
> > To: Howard Duncan
> > Cc: Patrick Jones
> > Subject: RE: Request to have the Elise classed in D/M
> > 
> > 
> > Howard - Has there been any word from the modified committee on the
> > Elise?  It is getting very frustrating not knowing where this car
> can
> > run.  My daughter is now racing.  We both want to go to the
> divisional
> > on the 23/24th of June.  I can't let her down, but I have no 
> > idea if my
> > car is legal.  Please help me with this.  Thank you.
> > 
> > patrick
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