I have a problem with giving anyone a copy of the rules, esp pertaining
to the timing slip/stopping problem. I haven't been able to find such a
rule. Give me a clue where it is, please.
--Pat Kelly
Kenneth Allan Mitchell wrote:
>
> I agree that rules should be applied equally but how do you expect a
> newbie for the first time at an event be knowledgeable on the rules when
> no one gives him a copy of the rules or explain the rules and goes out
> makes his/her run and does not stop, and be penalized for not knowing a
> rule. In this case a verbal is warranted.
>
> Now driving recklessly in the paddock is a different story and common
> sense.
>
> Anthony Tabacco wrote:
> >
> > Driving unsafely in the paddock area, or anywhere at an SCCA event for that
> > matter, is addressed clearly in our rule book. Failure to stop for a timing
> > slip is not the same thing, does not necessarily imply unsafe behavior, and
> > is not covered in our rules. It just means the driver forgot or didn't see
> > the station. Whether or not a driver is new or experienced should not be
> > relavant. Rules should be applied equally, when a rule exists. In this case
> > it doesn't. Rich is right.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Hey, Rich, I like me better when I do those lite nostalgia posts.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rich Urschel" <OSP13@attglobal.net>
> > To: <nokones@kenmitchell.com>
> > Cc: "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: Stopping for Timing Slips
> >
> > > Kenneth Allan Mitchell wrote:
> > >
> > > > John Kelly was given a DNF for one of his runs when he did not stopped
> > > > for a timing slip at Round 6 in Sacramento. Also other drivers in the
> > > > past have been penalized for the very same thing. It doesn't happen too
> > > > often. In most cases its the newbie drivers that don't stop because they
> > > > are unaware of the rule and they are usually all pumped up and want to
> > > > get back and tell everyone how bitchin this sport is and forget to stop.
> > > >
> > > > I feel one verbal warning is appropriate for a newbie driver but in the
> > > > case of an experienced autocrosser, that is different. Its going to be a
> > > > DNF and a brief chat. There's no excuse and safety should not be
> > > > compromised for any reason.
> > >
> > > Well then I think we are back to Katie's question. So which
> > > rule authorizes whom to call a DNF under what conditions?
> > > I can't find it either.
> > >
> > > BTW, I personally think DNF is the wrong penalty because
> > > the times I have seen experienced drivers unsafely blow
> > > by the timing slip person is when they are upset over
> > > having botched their run. Safety disqualification (or warning
> > > therof) by the Event Chair and Event Safety Steward works
> > > for me. Handing out DNF's (or not) without a documented
> > > rule could become very political.
> > > Rich
>
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> Kenneth Allan Mitchell
> mailto:nokones@kenmitchell.com
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