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Re: [evolution-disc.] RE: SS & Money

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Subject: Re: [evolution-disc.] RE: SS & Money
From: "Wentzel" <greendot1@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 19:57:32 -0500
Al, welcome out of the closet :-), however briefly. You have always provided a
thought out and knowledgeable insight to discussions.

Bruce
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Chan, Albert
  To: autox@autox.team.net ; evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:05 AM
  Subject: [evolution-disc.] RE: SS & Money


  Out of lurk mode that I've been in for the past few years, as autocrossing
  has taken a back seat to other needs. Apologies for my late contribution.

  Some comments as I've looked at various postings on this topic:
  1) What the SS/Corvette community wasn't happy about was having the Viper
  adopted for SS during the second quarter of the year. Remember the context
  that back then SS was one of most highly subscribed classes at Nationals,
  and the effect could be obsoleting the entire class. One can always debate
  in hindsight about the validity of that opinion.

  Also, for the record, the ZR-1 Corvette - similar in price and rated
  horsepower to the Viper - was on the exclusion list for a number of years -
  far longer than the Viper, and kept on the exclusion list after the Viper
  was allowed to play in SS.

  All credit to the SEB and SAC - it seems that there is more discussion and
  better timing as far as classing of vehicles during the competition year
  (the timing of the Integra Type-R classification and the subsequent
  discussion is also relevant here).

  2) For all of those who have discussed that it seems that each model of
  Corvette have had their own class - may it be politely suggested that other
  vehicles be looked at? From a historical basis (early to mid-90s, same time
  frame as this Viper discussion, it always amazed me how many classes that
  Honda Civics ran in, with all of their Si/Dx/Hf/CRX variants (1300 cc and
  1500 cc).

  3) It's true that each generation of Corvette is specifically classed in
the
  SCCA rulebook - but that doesn't guarantee its competitiveness. It should
  also be noted many other vehicles also have each one of their generations
or
  platforms listed as well.

  Also, to all the Corvette cynics, please note that SCCA hasn't given class
  breaks to models within a generation of Corvettes (unlike the Honda Civic
  example listed above). C4s of all model years, whether a 405 HP ZR-1, a 250
  HP tuned port, or a 205 HP cross-fire, all play in A-Stock.

  4) While some people may not like that both the C4 and C5 Corvettes have
  performed well at the highest levels, it should be noted that with such a
  large enthusiast and club following, it only accelerates the development of
  the vehicle for solo/autocross use. The C4 was such a popular vehicle that
  many of the tire companies specifically used Corvettes for the development
  of their competition tires - a nice advantage to have. I would speculate
  that if the Mitsu Evo has such a wide following and different competitors
on
  the west/east/midwest all developing their vehicles, it should trounce the
  C4 in future years.

  5) Finally, for the record, both Bill Rietow and myself recognized that Jim
  Harnish put in a great second day/third run drive, and congratulated him
  appropriately.

  Back to lurk mode. It is certainly a nice diversion at work.


  Regards,
  Al Chan
  SS/Corvette participant at Nationals - '93 through '95
  (hopefully will be able to return to Nationals in 2004 after a layoff of
  several years - in a Corvette)



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