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From: Rick Cone [mailto:rickcone@bellsouth.net]
: thing to do. It's the right thing to do at Local Events, and
Divisionals.
The "right thing to do" should not depend on a time, type of event, or
anything else.
: But... If you expect to trophy and perhaps win Nationals, you are playing
a
: whole different game. Why on earth am I going to go up to someone and
tell
: them that I think X, Y, Z and H is wrong with their car, before we have
: completed or even started competition runs? They might be gracious, they
You might not do it. I would do it because I believe that the
ethical/sportsmanlike thing to do is make the competitor aware of the
variance.
: might get mad, upset, pissed off you name it. I should not have to
create a
If you do it in a confrontational manner the results will most likely be
unpleasant. If it is the "right thing to do" the consequences should be of
little/no concern. This is where the line is drawn between a hero and a
coward.
: confrontation, just to be a sportsman. Something about that tells me
it's
: not sportsmanship. There have been people pissed off enough about a
: potential protestor that they vandalized their car. Why should I have to
The potential protestor may have (he might have been an a** when approaching
the issue) behaved in a sportsmanlike manner, the protestee, obviously, did
not.
: take on that potential burden just to appease those that believe in this
: almighty sportsmanship is the way.
Does that mean that you don't believe in sportsmanship :-)
: If you are going to play this game to win, you better be prepared to play
: all the way through the impound shed. That is the game. If you don't
like
: it, find another game, change the rules, or quit bitching about the
process.
You are correct, it is part of the game. I don't plan on looking for
another game. Rule changes are probably on the way. I have never "bitched
about" the process of protest/impound. I think that everyone involved did a
fine job, I felt the DSQ was a bit harsh, but that is just MHO. I "bitched
about" a competitor using the process in (again IMHO) an unsportsmanlike
manner.
: We don't write specific rules for sportsmanship only vehicle eligibility
and
: preparation.
I said it before and I'll say it again, you can't legislate morality.
: Sportsmanship is shaking the hand of the winner at the end of the game.
Not
: telling him how or why he might lose before it starts. We are also
taught
: early on that it's not if you win or lose, its how you play the game
: (sportsmanship). Since the game is not over until impound is over, those
: that complain about the procedures laid out in the book are the real poor
: sports.
AGAIN, it's not what is "laid out in the book" with which I have a problem.
It is the implementation by the protestor.
: So how do you file a protest and be a good sport?
: 1) Make sure you are the person that tells the protested party about the
: protest. I would not want to hear about a protest from some guy with a
: radio, golf cart and clip board saying we have to impound your car.
I believe that this ( the golf cart clipboard method) is how the protestees
found out about their infractions.
: 2) Be friendly and polite. I can't stress this enough. Through my
entire
No words were exchanged (that I am aware of) during impound between the
protestor and the protestees.
: protest of the Priebe/Eckert/Elder car this year, the level of
'friendship'
: for lack of better word actually went up. Hell, We cut a deal at the end
of
: the protest when it was obvious that nothing was going to be found and I
: helped them put the car back together. Last year after protesting Robert
: Carpenters car, and it looked like he might not get it back together for
the
: second day of the prosolo, I offered him my car. How many people protest
: someone, and offer them their car? That's sportsmanship.
I'll go along with that. I am guessing/hoping that in these cases the rules
infraction in question was not noticed until competition had begun. That is
a COMPLETELY different scenario than we are discussing. It's a nice story
but not really relevant.
: So those of you that show up at Nationals expecting to win or trophy, and
: want someone to tell them first of illegalities in/on their car.......
IMHO,
: you are trying to use 'Sportsmanship' to cover your poor vehicle
Maybe, maybe not. It could be that the person really is cheating :-)
: preparation. Now who is the real sportsman?
I know it when I see it.
: Rick Cone
Ron (getting tired of this discussion) Madurski
FM 124
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