"National Championship Class." Mark, you may well have the nut of the issue
there.
BTW, couldn't an argument be made that a "national" class is any class for
which the SEB has codified a single set of prep rules within the Solo II
rulebook? Everything else would be a "regional" class for which the rules
exist only on a local level (and may vary from locality to locality). Street
Tire classes, Novice classes, PAX classes, etc. And then, as you mention,
being a "national" class does not mean being a "championship" class -- which
would be classes fully subscribed (whatever it is determined that means) at
Nationals. Most classes would be championship classes going in, and could
not lose that status at that event (but could for the next year's). Some
might be supplemental going in, and scheduled as part of another class, but
would gain immediate championship status if it makes the numbers. Doing so
would not necessarily mean it would retain it the following year, however,
if it is still considered in a new or developmental state.
"Please feel free to suggest solutions to the SEB." Actually, I'm beginning
to generate some, which will likely come to fruition sometime next week.
--Rocky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Sirota" <mark@sirota.org>
To: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; <TeamZ06@aol.com>
Cc: <autox@autox.team.net>; "Evolution Discussion"
<evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Supplemental classes
> --On Friday, September 20, 2002 5:15 PM -0500 Rocky Entriken
> <rocky@tri.net> wrote:
> > Won't quibble, Mark, with your development argument. Basically I agree.
> > To the point that if, given my scenario, the SEB decides to keep STX and
> > SM2 as supplemental again next year, giving further time for
development,
> > that's okay. But if it meets the numbers next year, and breaks out next
> > year, then give it the full championship salute next year. Again.
>
> An honest question here: Is the "full championship salute" only a matter
> for Nationals, or for the sport as a whole?
>
> It's not normally enough (or it shouldn't be, anyway) for a class to make
> numbers at Nationals in order to gain full national status. The class
> should also have some reasonable rate of subscription at the local level,
> should be forecast to have some staying power, and should be good for the
> sport as a whole. Or that's my impression, anyway.
>
> > But what we are saying THIS year is that, for example, Scott McQueen
> > winning a 17-car E Mod class is more deserving than James Gunn-Wilkinson
> > winning a 23-car SM2 class (SM2 broke out from EM). My argument is they
> > are equally deserving and should receive equal recognition.
>
> At first blush I don't disagree with this, and it makes me think that
> perhaps we need to split the decision regarding national status and
> national *championship* status. Could some classes offer the latter but
> not the former? How about the other way 'round?
>
> > AP/BP provides a good example of how it COULD work the other direction.
> > Both had just 9 entries this year total. So BP merges to AP for 2003
> > Nationals. The Corvettes still retain their BP identity, but they are
> > scheduled to run together as a single class. However, if BP booms in
with
> > 18 of its own, it breaks out again and leaves the APs to fend for
> > themselves.
>
> Once again, I think your proposal suggests separating the question of
> "national class" from "national championship class". In this case, AP/BP
> would be a single national championship class, but would remain separate
> classes across the country. Do I understand that correctly?
>
> (Note that AP has now not made the numbers required by 4.7 (page 59) for
> two consecutive years. Please feel free to suggest solutions to the SEB.)
>
> > By doing so we also answer the question of "how many times to we have to
> > hit it to be a 'real' class?" The answer becomes, "You are a real class
> > every time you hit it." We could even, then, do something like: Hit it
> > four years in a row, and you are no longer supplemental. How's that for
> > development time?
>
> Once again, I'm not wild about making Nationals attendance numbers the
> only criteria for gaining full national status, though perhaps it makes
> some sense for national championship status.
>
> Mark
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