oops...to reply to Mr. Fuhrmann and
exonerate Dave & Marianne Lyons from
further replies rightly directed at
me...
> > indicates my (Lee Nichols') initial
comments
> indicates Mr. Fuhrmann's reply to my
initial comments
(no >) is my reply to his reply...
apologies to all for the confusion
Lee Nichols
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> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 06:25:47 -0500
> From: "Bill Fuhrmann"
<fuhrmann@cpinternet.com>
> Subject: RE: 2002 SCCA rules - text
format
>
> > I am very confused by the
discussion about the rulebook.
> Looks like you don't understand the
term "intellectual property".
admitted.
> My feeling is that it is in the
SCCA's best interest to allow people to
make
> copies of part or all of the rules
for use as copies and identified as the
> SCCA's rules. According to one
person on this list, the SCCA has said
that
> they did not intend to block copying
the rules. That is a policy that may
> need to be clarified.
especially since page 316 of the 2002
National Solo Rules says "Please note
the 2002 National Solo Rules file is a
read only file, you will not be able to
print or select any of the text or
images."
> If they really want (which has not
been shown by anyone, only ASSUMED)
that
> they wanted to make money from them,
it would be very easy to REQUIRE that
> all competitors have an SCCA printed
book or SCCA created CD-ROM with them.
I looked through the 2002NSR briefly
but couldn't find a reference. I do
know that members of my autocross club
that participated in an SCCA National
event were told to have an SCCA
rulebook with them at tech; I cannot
find that reference at the moment. As
I remember it, you had to show that you
had a copy in order to pass tech. As I
wasn't there and can't find my emails
regarding it, this falls into
"anecdotal evidence," which isn't.
Personally, I think that requirement
would be completely appropriate.
> > As to the printability / etc of the
CD files, it has been mentioned
> > that the "protection" is an
accident of manufacture. If so, why
does
> > the rulebook include mention of
that "protection?"
(reply to above comment is from "Dave &
Marianne Lyons")
> > > I cannot find where, in the
rulebook it specifically mentions the
> > > Security setting in the PDF file.
Could you tell me where that is?
and I referenced page 316 of the
2002NSR, as mentioned above
> The laws allows copying of items for
some uses. HOWEVER, it
> doesn't say that the author has to
HELP YOU copy the material.
what about attempting to prevent me
from doing so? see page 316 of the
2002NSR. How do you wish me to
interpret that sentence?
> > I simply cannot understand how the
SCCA can think that restricting
> > access to the rules benefits them
in any way.
>THAT is a big ASSUMPTION that people
have made but has not been confirmed in
>any way by the SCCA.
see page 316 of the 2002NSR. Again.
Even though the very next line is
"please visit our web site at:
www.scca.org", you cannot currently
find any of the referenced regulations
on the site. The specific pages have
been down since October 2001. It's
currently May 2002. As best I can
tell, currently the ONLY way to get
detailed information from the SCCA
regarding their regulations is to
purchase them. Requiring their
purchase does nothing to protect their
copyright or intellectual property
rights. Nor does attempting to prevent
me from copying or printing the very
regulations I paid for.
Lee Nichols
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