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RE: Rules of order

To: "'Tom Holt'" <tholt@ccsi.com>, "'Rocky Entriken'" <rocky@tri.net>,
Subject: RE: Rules of order
From: "Eric Salem" <eric@mail.brown911.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 22:10:05 -0600
Hey now, you only beat me by six seconds at Nats. . . .

It's that twin-plugging, yah that's the ticket.

e

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Holt [mailto:tholt@ccsi.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 9:33 PM
To: Rocky Entriken; Eric Salem; 'autox'
Subject: Re: Rules of order


    I can't recall the particulars of it, but several years back I
remember David Ferguson losing a protest in FP because he had a 2 plug
head on his 914-6... I want to say he wasn't even running two spark
plugs, but he still lost. He came back the next year, fully legal, won
and never returned.
    So... at least on the 914-6... it has been found illegal before.

Tom
FP29
(not a decade older than Eric!)   ;)

----- Original Message -----
From: Rocky Entriken <rocky@tri.net>
To: Eric Salem <eric@mail.brown911.com>; 'autox' <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Rules of order


> As I read it, yes, you do. However, what that really means is you 
> cannot
be
> GCR-illegal. There is a number of things you are permitted but don't 
> have
to
> do. By the same token, if the Solo book permits something the GCR does
not,
> you can't do it if you are claiming to be a GCR-prep car.
>
> I.e. You present a twin-plug car, someone protests it, you claim 
> legality
as
> a GCR-prep car. Better not be anything else on it that is GCR-Illegal,

> or anything missing that is GCR-required, even if allowed under the 
> Solo
rules.
>
> I'm reading into that, Comp Board permitted the twin-plug heads. Solo
Board
> is not bound by that, other than through the GCR-legal option.
>
> --Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Salem" <eric@mail.brown911.com>
> To: "'Rocky Entriken'" <rocky@tri.net>; "'autox'" 
> <autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Rules of order
>
>
> > Well here's the skinny.
> >
> > In February's Errors & Omissions they gave GT2 911's and 914's twin 
> > plug heads. Well there's not much of a HP difference between single 
> > and twin-plug, but the drivability difference is huge. Since my car 
> > is driven to the events twin-plugging would be a nice touch.
> >
> > So if GCR legal means FP by default do I have to go all the way to 
> > GCR legal just to get this one item.
> >
> > Wondering,
> > e
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-autox@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-autox@autox.team.net]

> > On Behalf Of Rocky Entriken
> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:54 PM
> > To: Eric Salem; 'autox'
> > Subject: Re: Rules of order
> >
> >
> > Nope, not quite a mirror. GCR was merely the starting point.
> >
> > Of course the rules for GT1 are not quite the same as for GT5, never

> > mind Production.
> >
> > These solo people seem to have the silly idea that just because 
> > preparation rules were originally created for road racing cars they 
> > are somehow unsuitable for solo. Actually they are quite suitable, 
> > just that given a certain allowance you might go this way for a 
> > road-race application and that way for a solo application, but it is

> > still the same rule. Any prep rule is basically arbitrary -- doesn't

> > much matter what the rule is only that there is a rule so limits are

> > established that define the car/category.
> >
> > That said -- the Solo II Prep rules are mildly different from the 
> > GCR GT/Production rules. IMHO, not so much that it makes a 
> > significant difference. But there also is a paragraph in there 
> > somewhere that says if yours is a GCR-legal car, it is therefore a 
> > Solo-legal car. The catch is you have to be all one way or all the 
> > other, no taking the best from each book and mixing them. My DP Solo

> > car is really a dual-purpose GP race car. I could care what the Solo

> > II prep rules say. A long as I am GCR-legal I'm good. You too if you

> > like the GT rules better.
> >
> > --Rocky Entriken
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Salem" <eric@mail.brown911.com>
> > To: "'autox'" <autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:43 PM
> > Subject: Rules of order
> >
> >
> > > Somewhere I got the silly notion that Solo Prepared engine rules 
> > > should be a mirror of the GCR rules for GT 1 - 5.
> > >
> > > If that's the case there is an Errors and Omissions I WANT in my 
> > > FP car.
> > >
> > > 1. Am I way off base?
> > >
> > > 2. How do I start the process?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > e
> > > #72 FP
> > >
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