> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-autox@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-autox@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Mark J. Andy
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:59 PM
> To: autox mailing list
> Subject: Re: Jeep Liberty Rollover
>
>
> Howdy,
>
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Phillip Osborne wrote:
> > I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD V8 that handled pretty darn
> good too. In my
> > opinion, you can take any truck or SUV, two or 4WD and
> subject them to
> > certain conditions and effect a rollover. I've been in a
> few that have gone
> > up on two wheels (under closed loop conditions), and it
> ain't that difficult
> > to make them do it. It's funny to me that SUV's catch the
> flack, while they
> > are nothing more than a glorified truck with a topper. An
> SUV rolls and
> > it's headline news, a truck rolls and it's never mentioned...
>
> That's because soccer moms rarely are in the trucks...
I have agree with Andy on this one. I work for a rather blue collar company.
There are quite a few "ladies" and "gentlemen" who work for this firm who
drive Expeditions, Jimmeys, Suburbans, and Excursions who believe that if
these vehicles weren't perfectly safe they wouldn't be available for sale.
They got the scare of their lives when one of these geniuses rolled their
SUV on an off ramp recently. Only time this Darwinian noticed the warning on
their sunvisor was when she climbed out over it! This person and several of
her coworkers give me grief constantly for racing in parking lots
(obligatory autocross content).
Ford succesfully played Firestone for the pansy in the past media farce.
Great marketing runs circles around common sense. At least pickups are
marketed as tough vehicles for working people. Not stupid urban
vanity-mobiles to replace your car.
I've blown a front tire on a Mercedes 230.6 at well over 120MPH (autobahn 81
heading for Sindelfingen{Home of Diamler/Benz} from Manheim). It wasn't
easy, but I didn't hit anything. Blown a rear tire in a GTI doing about the
same(A5 between Heidelburg and Frankfurt). Got to the shoulder in one almost
smooth move. Driven a 935 from Cuxhavan to Munich in under 5 1/2 hours
(Yahoo says 533 miles and yes it was midnight when I started). Certifiable
Nut (ask Phil Osborne) who wouldn't drive any SUV over 80 in any case.
Nomex on order
Tom VandenOever
ex #7 ES Neon "Greon"
Soon to be IT Neon "Bluon"
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