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Re: Classing

To: pullg@mindspring.com, autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Classing
From: "Larry Steckel" <lorenzoscribe@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:08:09 -0400
I picked the C-4 Vette on a regional basis for A Stock simply because of the 
numbers of them available. I don't see the current C-4 drivers selling their 
cars, they will just change the class letters on the doors. When you 
consider how much Corvette you can buy for around $10,000, and the size of 
the aftermarket available, it's something that even I would consider. A no 
brainer in my book.

Now. On a national level, of course the Porsche 993 has to be considered, 
especially if there is some sort of contingency program. Regionaly, those 
cars are still in the hands of the waxers and gold chain types.

In B Stock, I picked the F body tuner cars because on a local basis we don't 
see much of anything else listed in the class other than a few Porsche 944's 
and a lone MR2-Turbo. And because I have heard people saying that a Camaro 
with a full up Corvette engine sounds like a good deal. Something a regular 
guy might justify.

Larry Steckel


>From: "Jamie Sculerati" <pullg@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: "Jamie Sculerati" <pullg@mindspring.com>
>To: "Team.Net" <autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Classing
>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:29:16 -0400
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Roger Johnson <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>
>
> > Having (almost) weaned myself from these lists,
> > it takes something pretty extraordinary for me to
> > make a post .  .  .  .  .  .
> > .  . .  . and y'all have done it.
>
>:)
>
> > I cannot conceive of *ANY* set of circumstances that
> > would have the C4 Corvette or the F-Body tuner cars
> > nationally competitive in the proposed A/S for 2002
> > and beyond.
>
>I took the chicken's way out -- I just said "AS:  10 models.  'Vettes 
>again,
>mixing it up with Porsches.  Regionally, add the BMWs and the Supra TT."  I
>didn't specify which of the two flavors of 'Vette listed.  Pressed, I'd 
>have
>to guess the ZR-1 would hold an upper hand.
>
>The F-body tuners (Camaro SS and Firebird WS6) are listed in BS, not AS.
>
> > Those of you claiming so:  What evidence (other than
> > emotion) can you cite to back up your claims?
> >
> > Incredulous
>
>If the S2000 and/or the Boxster S go to AS, I'd agree.  But they're not yet
>classed, and right now, there just aren't that many other cars in AS:
>
>NSX?  Telepathic handling, but not enough torque.  It's almost like driving
>a turbocharged car -- you have to spool up the engine a bit to make things
>move.
>
>BMW M-twins?  Regionally, very good.  I'd call the coupe an outside chance
>nationally, because they're light and they handle well.  Note that these 
>are
>the "old" engine cars, not the newer ones, which are in SS.  I could be
>under-rating them a bit, but I don't think they're overdogs.
>
>Pantera/Mangusta?  Even on the rare occasions you see one, I don't think
>they dance as well as the 'Vette.
>
>Porsche 911/993 (non-turbo)?  The other car that the matters in the new AS.
>I think the 'Vette has an edge in low-rpm power that counts for something.
>And given the numbers of 'Vette drivers out there, even if the 911 is a
>little faster, I suspect it'll show in smaller numbers, which opens up some
>possibilities.
>
>Saleen Mustang?  Torque -- but I don't think it dances as well.
>
>Cobra?  Like the Pantera, only rarer.
>
>Supra Turbo?  Certainly regionally.  Maybe nationally...but I'd still bet 
>on
>the 'Vette or the Porsche.
>
>Now the only cars off that list I've *ever * driven are the C4 'Vette (not 
>a
>ZR-1) and the NSX, so everything else is a best guess -- but I'm still
>willing to put my name on it.
>
>Jamie
>'92 Prelude Si
>Speed Demon Racing
>http://www.mindspring.com/~jsculerati/sdr
>
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