Now that, is thinking out of the box! :)
IMO, it COULD be done provided the new site has room for 3 courses.
(Yea, so you can't figure an index, they're subjective anyway.) :)
Lindsay
-----Original Message-----
From: Rush [mailto:jdrush@enter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:00 PM
To: autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 4 runs at Nationals
What about making the new lot big enough to hold three courses
simultaneously?
Jon Rush
Rocky Entriken wrote:
>
> Actually, 6 days may be in the future if the event keeps growing as it
has.
> but it won't be at a 1200 car count. Maybe at a 1500 car count. For one
> thing, to supply the extra stewards, chiefs, captains, etc., and even cone
> chasers, you need the extra entrants. And if I were to guess:
> Tuesday-Sunday. 6 day may become the solution at a time when we are
turning
> away significant numbers of entrants after we hit the 1250 entry cap.
>
> Of course, we also just proved we can run a 400-car event in a day. It was
> ugly, but we got it done and with remarkable and laudable efficiency. Not
> what we want to do every year, but it lets us know we might be able to
edge
> a little beyond a "normal" 300-car event per course per day so that 1250
cap
> might rise to 1300 or 1400 in future years. But if I were to guess, not
> until we have hit 1250 a time or two and brought off successful events.
>
> --Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jac73@daimlerchrysler.com>
> To: <jeff@winchell.com>
> Cc: <autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: 4 runs at Nationals
>
> > On Wed, 19 September 2001, Jeff Winchell said:
> >
> > >On Wed, 19 September 2001, jac73@daimlerchrysler.com wrote:
> >
> > >>you're looking at some VERY long days trying to do 4 runs for 1200
> > >>people (figure 300 cars per course per day). I don't think that's a
> > >>realistic call at our nice, high Nationals entry levels.
> >
> > >How about running 6 days?
> >
> > I take it you're talking running Monday to Saturday. Okay, let's ponder
> > this one. Yes, it drops the cars per course per day count to
effectively
> > 200 cars per day. 200 cars x 4 runs x 20 seconds interval = about 4.5
> > hours. Certainly reasonable on the face of it. Figure 6-7 hours with
> > downtime, reruns, etc. Three runs is even nicer in that respect.
> >
> > However... It adds one banquet (Tues, Thurs, Sat vs. Wed, Fri), which
is,
> > as they say in the brake shop commercials, "substantial additional cost"
> > for someone, be it SCCA, the MTAA, the TCVB, and/or the entrants. Said
> > banquet also eliminates the only "free to graze" night of the week,
which
> > would be somewhat discouraging to the local restaurants who offered
> > discounts, coupons, etc. for competitors and also underwrite the Topeka
> > Convention & Visitors Bureau. Keeping the locals fat and happy
> > economically during our week there is probably the biggest reason we
have
> > the support from Topeka that we do.
> >
> > Running 6 days instead of 4 requires 4-6 additional Operating Stewards,
> > Chiefs of Course, Timing & Scoring Captains, 8-10 additional Safety
> > Stewards, 4-8 additional Announcers. It requires an additional day of
> site
> > usage as we'd need to stay on the Forbes site on the following Sunday
for
> > course teardown and equipment & facilities removal (Port-a-johns,
> > dumpsters, tents, bleachers, barrels & signs), which is hard to get,
even
> > in years that don't involve sudden increases in airport and military
base
> > security levels. In past years, people leaving trailers on the site
> Friday
> > night were instructed that they had to be gone by 0800 Saturday morning.
> >
> > And we lose the Monday arrive/get settled/get registered/get teched/walk
> > courses day. Remember that both courses would need to be available for
> > walking at the same time. With the South Course area in use by the
> ProSolo
> > finale on Saturday and Sunday, even if we eliminated one day of the
Kansas
> > Region warm-up event on the North Course area, we wouldn't be able to
open
> > it for walking until the South Course was also available anyway, so
Kansas
> > Region might as well run the warmup both days on the weekend.
> >
> > While it's *possible* to do this, I don't think it's ultimately
advisable
> > as it's awfully hard on the organizers and chiefs -- you've essentially
> > added 50% to their existing workload. Remember that these folks are
also
> > competitors, and they deserve a shot at driving at Nationals with their
> > heads in reasonable shape. *I* can't drive well when my head's
elsewhere
> > or I'm fatigued out of my skull, and I firmly think I'm fairly normal in
> > that respect.
> >
> > Jim Crider
> > autojim@att.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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