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Re: [evolution-disc.] Fixed Back Seats in STS

To: <knuckledragger@kcweb.net>, <autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [evolution-disc.] Fixed Back Seats in STS
From: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:47:52 -0500
>>>>I drive 35 miles each way to and from work on some of
the most pitted, pot-holed and rutted roads in America (that'd be I-70 on
the Missouri side of the Mo/Kan state line folks

So they improved that section of road????

DaveW
(Missouri Taxpayer)





----- Original Message -----
From: "Linnhoff, Eric" <knuckledragger@kcweb.net>
To: "'Jay Mitchell'" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>;
<evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: [evolution-disc.] Fixed Back Seats in STS


> And there's a good reason for that, IMHO. In SP, you can install
> any "fully padded and upholstered" front seat. This wording
> allows things like Kirkey aluminum seats that can save
> substantial weight at the expense of being a pain in the ass in a
> car that is driven on the street. I believe the "reclining"
> wording is intended to restrict one's choice of replacement seats
> to those that are truly intended for street use, e.g., certain
> Recaro models. Typically you don't save weight with this type of
> seat. In fact, you may even gain some. This is one instance in
> which careful choice of rules wording helps keep modifications
> reasonable. I'd hate to see that change.
> ============================
> Don't take this the wrong way Jay but........
>
> Who are you to say what's comfortable, tolerable or "a pain in the ass" to
> me?  I am quite used to the 500# springs on my car now.  Some would balk
and
> say that there's no way that springs so stiff are "streetable", but they
are
> and I'm the proof.  I drive 35 miles each way to and from work on some of
> the most pitted, pot-holed and rutted roads in America (that'd be I-70 on
> the Missouri side of the Mo/Kan state line folks) every single day on
those
> springs.  Sure I dodge potholes and pavement ripples every few hundred
feet
> but I would do the same if I had a completely stock suspension.
>
> "Intended for street usage", boy, that requires a lot of interpretation.
> Are 600+ hp Toyota Supras "intended for street usage"?  Obviously yes
since
> they're out there as we speak.  How about Lotus Elises?  Ferrari 360s?
> Suzuki Hayabusas (a sub $11K motorcycle capable of nearly 200mph right off
> of the showroom floor)?  What are those vehicles "intended" for?  Piddling
> around to and from the grocery store or autobahn blasting?
>
> There are no DOT laws regarding the regulation of replacement seats and
it's
> not a state "inspection" requirement (at least in Kansas and Missouri) so
> that can't be used as the basis for the rule.
>
> So who cares if someone wants to ride around town in a thinly padded
Kirkey
> seat?  Not me.  I wouldn't even care if they wanted to swap out seats
> immediately prior to each event as well.  That's perfectly legal and
simply
> means that they have more disposable income than I do.  So what.  I'm
> getting damn sick and tired of hearing that the SCCA is trying to keep
high
> priced items out of the "cheap" classes.  No Vipers, Ferrari 360s or Turbo
> 911s in Stock because they're "too expensive".  What a crock of horse
> manure.  A new Z06 is $50K.  How is that cheap?  Maybe we should all just
> drive Neons or Miatas. Oh wait, umm, nevermind.  ;^)
>
> I would personally choose a seat with quite a bit more padding but would
> prefer the added support and safety of a fixed back seat.  Not to mention
> the cost savings too.
>
> "...keeps modifications reasonable"?  Again, there's a lot of room for
> interpretation there.  Who are you, or the SEB, to say what's reasonable,
> tolerable or intended for street usage for me in my state with my car?  Is
> is "reasonable" to remove the A/C system from a car that's driven in the
> Midwest or Sothern states in teh summer time?  Perhaps to some it is and
> that's all that's required to make it a "reasonable" modification.  I
> wouldn't want to drive a car with no A/C or a radio on long trips during
the
> summer but that's just me.  I would however give up the A/C far before I'd
> give up the radio.
>
> Lets use some common sense and do the right thing to rectify this
oversight.
>
> Eric Linnhoff in KC
> 1998 Dodge Neon R/T
> #69 STS    #13 TLS
> knuckledragger@kcweb.net
> ICQ#101282513
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