>> Most car clubs have separate classes for women so that they feel included
without feeling like cannon fodder when new to this sport. <<
And what do we do about the men they are new to the sport?
> If some women find they have the talent, temperament, or whatever it is
that makes them fast, they are free and welcome to compete with the men
rather than continually trouncing their respecitve women's class. <
Then why don't we allow the men who continously get trounced in open, run
ladies?
> On the contrary I think that although flawed, it's a very positive thing.
<
Sounds like an oximoron. If it is flawed then lets fix it. If it can't be
fixed then lets dump it.
I do LIKE the way ladies are handled at the Pro level. L1 and L2 are
usually both very well subscribed. But it is on an index system. Perhaps
we should do this for NT's and Nationals.
Rick Cone (Doused with flame retardent)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Fletcher" <richf@frontier.net>
To: <janice@wcsllc.net>
Cc: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: women's classes
> Janice,
>
> Thanks for your inquiry/comments. One of the reasons Marchell (my wife)
> created the women's Pro Solo division was that too many women were left
out
> of the action years ago. That, and we were able to get sponsorship first
> from Pontiac and then from Honda. I could argue all of your points, but I
> can't argue with your feelings. Inequities can be found everywhere in
sport
> whether they be gender based or not. The women's classification system we
> have in place is not now and never has been perfect, but it does allow
women
> to compare themselves not only to other women, but also to the "open"
> classes. The Women's Pro Solo system was set up to get more women
involved.
> It has been very successful in that respect.
>
> Most car clubs have separate classes for women so that they feel included
> without feeling like cannon fodder when new to this sport. We want the
club
> to be inclusive and supportive. If some women find they have the talent,
> temperament, or whatever it is that makes them fast, they are free and
> welcome to compete with the men rather than continually trouncing their
> respecitve women's class. Even so, I can see how some would have
misgivings
> about this kind of gender separation, but looking at the big picture It's
> hard to flatly state that it's a negative component of our sport. On the
> contrary I think that although flawed, it's a very positive thing.
>
> Rich Fletcher
>
>
> >Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 07:17:15 -0500
> >From: "Janice Sansone Rick" <janice@wcsllc.net>
> >Subject: Women Drivers In Solo II
>
> >Why are the classes "Open & "Women's"
> >I think that is creating the atmosphere that when a "woman" gets good at
> >driving she can go to the real class of the "open" one. I also have
heard
> >that when autocross drivers get good they can go road racing. I disagree
with
> >both. This classing system is a slam to the women National Champions!
> SNIP
> > In most sports and competition there is one class or the women aren't
compared
> > to the men's. I have never heard of a Woman Olympic Skier being now
good
> > enough that she ought to go to the men's class.
> >
> > I resent the implication that the women's classes are not enough
competition.
> >
> > I think the men have been nice to us to allow us this over equal thing
for a
> > long time and it's time we quit abusing it!
>
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