Good points. Keep in mind that Chevrolet has jack-squat for contingency. If
you really got down to true opinions, I bet you would find a few people who
thought a Vette could truly compete. I do think that the RX-7 is a better car
on Nationals type courses where it can make full power and torque. Smaller lots
favor the Vette, IMHO.
The bottom line is this:
If the C4 isn't competitive in SS, or won't be in a couple of years, it should
either be moved to AS - which is a HUGE mistake, the car is to fast for that
class; there should be a C4 only class - also a big mistake at this point. We
don't have any TRUE marque classes, and I don't think we should and truthfully,
the demand hasn't shown itself. Or the car should die a peaceful death as the
C5 gets developed. From my personal standpoint, I would like to see a flood of
letters from people who don't already autox, who would start because there was a
place for their C4 to play amongst other Vettes. If current drivers just moved
to Vette Stock (VS), then it is a 'share-shift', further diluting SCCA classes.
Street Touring was created in theory to attract a new segment of Soloists. I am
willing to listen for some benefits of VS though.
AB
I appreciate the input. I do have to disagree about the "best stock class",
it is fun to watch and there are allot of fast drivers. However the end
result is still the same, RX7 first place. If the Corvette was "coming on"
why would past National champions like Tom Kotzian and Gary Thomason drop
them for RX7s? I know for a fact that Kotzian has a few Corvettes sitting in
his garage, he even races them at local events, but when it is time to win
he brings the Mazda. I don't think Tom or Gary, as good as they are could
win SS in a Corvette.
There is no doubt that soon both the RX7 and the Corvette will be left
behind. I feel there is enough interest and the Corvette has a big enough
following it should have its own class. Kind of like Miata stock.
Again, thanks for the info, now I know what I need to do.
Congrats on the new kid, only bad thing was being born into a Mazda
family....ha
Jason Isley
jisley@cell1.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew_Bettencourt@kingston.com
[mailto:Andrew_Bettencourt@kingston.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 3:31 AM
To: 'Team.net'
Subject: Re: miata?????
Let me try to shed some light on the situation. Any parties that were
involved
(SCAC - SEB) who remember it differently or want to add, please do:
CS has evolved into an 'affordable' sports car class. N/A MR-2, Fiero V6,
Porsche 924S, 944, 240Z, N/A RX-7 all can be had for well under $10K. As
these
cars age, it is necessary to 'freshen' the mix in order to give the
membership
viable choices that you don't have to scour bone yards for wear items. The
1.6l
Miata fits the profile and the performance envelope without throwing a
ringer
into the class. Judging by the amount of letters received, there are a
significant amount of these cars out there waiting to return to full time
solo
duty. It is not the intent of the SCAC to set precedent of dissecting
classes
and moving older models around to fit somewhere. This move was to keep the
current CS alive and kicking. That is it in a snapshot.
As far as the C4 Corvette move, I would bet you a dollar that a move like
that
would kill what I consider to be the best stock class in Solo. Those cars
are
to fast. Hey, in a couple of years my RX-7 TT is gonna be a dinosaur. Look
at
all the high horsepower, high technology machinery coming out over the next
24
months. Should we then move the RX-7 to AS as well? Then the C4's to BS?
Of
course not. The RX-7 will die the same death as other cars, however slow it
has
been. Personally, I think that the Vette's are coming on. More Vette's in
the
top 10 this year than I can remember.
AB
You know, when you look at it like that, it is pretty tough to justify,
especially when those fast MR2's don't get moved to BS :)
Stan Whitney
99 Miata
At 02:21 PM 9/30/99 -0700, Isley, Jason C. wrote:
> I know I am going to catch flak for this, but I have to ask.....I am
>a previous Miata owner, a 93' and a 95', have done a number of different
>things with them, SOLO2, open track events and drag raced with the help of
>the little blue bottle. I do agree that there are performance differences
>between the different years, 1.6 Vs 1.8 cars. In fact there is no question
>that a 1.6 no matter how well prepped would not win BS today.
> Is the car so much slower it needs to be moved to another class? We
>are not talking about a different car, just an out dated one. I have even
>seen CS post times that have beat BS at Tours and Pros. So will this make
>the car competitive?
> Not to beat a dead horse, but look at the Corvette in SS. Forget
>about the RX7, just look at the difference between Vettes. 84' 205 hp, no
>abs. 85' to 91' 230 to 250 hp, 92' to 95' 300hp, 96' 330hp. Don't forget
>ZR1s 375 to 405hp. None of these have shown to blow the others away, but
>there are definitely preferred cars. Now we have the C5, right around 350
>hp, 17" and 18" wheels, when more tires and parts become available we will
>see its true potential.
> I don't see the vettes being split up......Look at FS major
>difference between LS1 powered cars and LT1 or L98.
> I know the Miata has a huge following, I had two, but so do other
>cars. I can see separating cars that have major differences, single cam
neon
>Es dual cam Ds. There is a bigger performance gap. I just don't see that
>difference between the Miata's.
> Can someone help me to understand where the argument for this came
>from, and how they convinced the SEB to make it happen? It may help me to
>get my car moved.
>Jason Isley
>jisley@cell1.com
>
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