O.K. Here we go again.....For those of you that have gotten tired of this
discussion, please delete NOW.
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>Debbi writes:
I will repeat my
> statement for the sake of accuracy.
> " I will agree with Loren that the best drivers will always come out on top
>regardless of weather, IF all things
> are equal. But how often are all things equal, except for maybe DS."
> Equal meaning, track conditions, rain tire availability, etc.
>
>Mike Writes:
>I put the period after weather because it was at the end of what was
>important. If you
>add "If all things are equal" and then turn around and try to say that they
>rarely ever are, whats the point.
Debbi writes:
What gives you the right to edit my comments? When you write "Debbi Writes:"
how about actually writing
what I wrote. You did this on your original post and I ignored it. If you
don't have a point based on the
statement I made AS I made it, then pass. Taking things out of context appears
to be a good example of
'Twisting words' which you so freely accused me of later in this post. If the
shoe fits......
>
> >Mike Writes:
> >See above Paragraph for correct answer!
>
> Not sure how the correction affects your answer, but I'm sure you will let
>me know.
>
>Mike Writes:
>Doesn't change things at all!!!!!!!
>
> >Debbi Writes:
> > In response to your previous post, no it didn't just rain on my car and I
> >fail to see why this should have made me less disappointed with Tuesdays
> >conditions. I have been rained on at Nationals 6 out of the past 10 years.
>I
> >didn't like it then and I will not like it next year if it happen again.
> >
> >Mike Writes:
> >Debbi, This is the Midwest it rains here in September a lot!!!!!! If its
> >rained on you 6 out of the last 10 Nats you should have a lot of experience
> >at driving in the rain. If
> >that's the case how is it that you finished 5 out of 8 in ASL? Just a
>question
> >I couldn't
> >help asking.
>
> Glad you ask. When I mailed my Nationals entry form on the last day of the
>deadline, I had never driven
> Mark's car. My fifth place finish in ASL was 2.2 seconds behind Marchell
>Fletcher who drove very well both
> days. Even though I had the 2nd fastest time on Wednesday(dry conditions)
>behind Marchell, I couldn't
> make up the deficit from the wet conditions the day before. Would rain tires
>have helped on Tuesday? Don't
> know, but I would like to think that they would have since all but one of
>the cars in front of me on Tuesday
> had breaded tires. Before you ask, Hoosier didn't have a Dirt Stocker in
>our size. Am I disappointed in my
> finishing position, not really. Third to fifth was separated by .14 seconds
>which is close competition in a
> ladies classes. Finishing less than 2/10ths out of the last trophy position
>in a car that I had driven twice, I
> don't think I did too badly. I have always driven prepared cars and the Z3
>was completely different. Did I
> expect to win, hardly, but that's OK as I can always pull out one of my
>other 'National Champion' jackets to
> wear till next year.
>
>Mike Writes:
>Please, Enough excuses. I really don't care to hear anymore of them. Thats all
>you have talked about since this discussion started. "If it only would
>have"?.
>"It just wasn't fair"
Debbi writes:
If you didn't want to know how I finished 5th out of 8th in ASL, THEN WHY DID
YOU ASK??????
I answered you question as accurately as possible. Once again Mike you are
showing statements in
quotations as my remarks that I have never said. I think that's pretty lame.
At no time before, during or after
this thread did I ever say "If it only would have"? or "It just wasn't fair".
This is not even "Twisting words" this
is pure and simple fabrication(otherwise know as a lie). Let's base this
discussion on facts, is that too much
to ask?
>Debbi writes:
> I could ask you about your finishing position, but I already know so I
>won't. Don't figure you want that on the list.
>
>Mike writes:
>Actually I was quite proud of my finish. 23rd/38 in CM was a good finish for
>me.
>I had hoped to do better but "Oh well". I was hoping to finish 19th or better
>and
>finish in the top half of the field.
I'm glad you are proud. Everything is relative.
>And Debbi, even if I finished DFL, I wouldn't give a "Rats @#$%$^&" if
>everyone
>on this list knew it. Big deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Debbi writes:
> I'm glad you feel the rain helped you, but were the 2 out of 3 DNF's under
>wet or dry conditions? I
> couldn't help asking.
>Mike writes:
>I said earlier that there wasn't enough rain in the first heat Tuesday to
>make any
>difference. You are really good at trying to twist words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debbi writes:
How is it I am "twisting words" when I am quoting you word for word? What I'm
not doing is writing full
sentences and giving you credit for saying them. BTW, I will number the
excuses below to make them easier
for you to read. And lets not forget the statement above:
Mike writes:
1."I said earlier that there wasn't enough rain in the first heat
Tuesday to make any difference.>
>I DNFed my first and last runs.
2..The first run I was just to "Pumped up" for
>the cold tires and slid of course. My second run was clean.
3.On my third I
>tried to "Pick up the pace" and slid out on exactly the same corner as the
>first run.
4.>Maybe I just misjudged how fast I could take that turn. Maybe I was
the reason
>it didn't work out.
Debbi writes:
Perhaps one man's reasons or another man's excuses. Apparently excuses are
subject to interpretation.
Mike writes:
>After all I was behind the wheel, I make no excuses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debbi writes:
Yea right!!
Just for the record, in my original post I addressed the fact that running on
slick or wet surfaces with National
Championships at stake was not fun as Loren insisted(remember). I think
HAVOCDEAN summed up what
I was saying in his 5:02pm post today.
HAVOCDEAN WRITES:
"I don't think the National Championship Solo2 should be decided on wet
conditions. How shallow is that
victory with you win ONLY because you got dry or drier runs?"
Perhaps we have a different perspective than you. Now maybe you can argue with
him for awhile. BTW, are
we about done here? I'm starting to get bored and you must be too or you
wouldn't be making up things for
me to say.
Debbi
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