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Well, yeah!=C2=A0 The factory should have done it this way from the start.=
=C2=A0 It would be consistent with the front suspension design.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Luichinger <luichinger@comcast.net>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion
Has anyone tried Ratco=E2=80=99s coil over shock conversion. =C2=A0It seems=
to be the right way to do this type of conversion.=C2=A0
Sent from my iPad
On May 11, 2020, at 8:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
=EF=BB=BF There are several tube shock conversion kits out there and there =
are several significant differences.=C2=A0 I know of three styles:
#1 A simple bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well.=C2=A0 This one is =
evil.=C2=A0 This kit transfers all the shock loading to the bodywork which =
was not designed to this and will suffer for it.=C2=A0 Avoid at all costs.
#2 Multi-piece.=C2=A0 This has a series of three brackets on each side.=C2=
=A0 There is a bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well as in the on abo=
ve but it also bolts up to another bracket in the recess by the gas tank wh=
ich mounts up to yet another bracket that bolts up to the mount for the lev=
er shock.=C2=A0 This kit transfers the shock loading to the frame point tha=
t was designed for it.=C2=A0 The down side is there are six pieces requirin=
g 16 new holes in the bodywork and the brackets are bulky.=C2=A0 I removed =
mine after I found the tire on one side was rubbing against the bracket in =
the wheel well.
#3 single bracket direct to the frame.=C2=A0 This part is unique in its app=
earance in that it has a serpentine shape, mounts to the frame where the le=
ver shock mounts and reaches up to accept the top of the shock.=C2=A0 It ha=
s been said that this bracket will crack the frame since it has a long leve=
r arm and could apply additional torque to the mount.=C2=A0 But a quick vec=
tor analysis indicates that the forces are parallel to the long axis of the=
bracket and the loading on the frame will be not significantly different t=
hat those applied by the original lever shock.=C2=A0 The TR6 frame is infam=
ous for having weak spots but the shock mount is not one of them.=C2=A0 The=
differential mount certainly is and 40 year old frames tend to experience =
cracking regardless of what shock system is used.
I've used #2 and #3 and, more recently, switched back to lever shocks re-va=
lved by World Wide Auto Parts and find this a good solution for street use.=
=C2=A0 I suppose I could have tried a series of telescopic shocks with #3 b=
ut having other irons in the fire I did not pursue that approach.=20
Dave=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Yahoo via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, May 10, 2020 11:12 pm
Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion
An old topic,=C2=A0 but came up recently from the mgb side of my club=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0john twist of university motors has a video cautioning folks =
with this mod on their b to check the bolts on their conversion brackets.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I checked this on my 6 and all 4 bolts were nicely tight after=
many years. Also, no frame cracking that I could see.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 After s=
ome of the horror storis about this conversion,=C2=A0 =C2=A0I might not do =
it again=C2=A0Cheers=C2=A0 =C2=A0bruce simms
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Well, yeah! The factory should have done it th=
is way from the start. It would be consistent with the front suspensi=
on design.</font><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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</div>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Mark Luichinger <luichinger@comcast.net><br>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br>
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 11:22 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"yiv5645220750">
<div>Has anyone tried Ratco=E2=80=99s coil over shock conversion. It =
seems to be the right way to do this type of conversion. <br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 11, 20=
20, at 8:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div class=3D"yiv5645220750yqt5789502241" id=3D"yiv5645220750yqt80852">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">There are several tube shock conversion kits out the=
re and there are several significant differences. I know of three sty=
les:</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">#1 A simple bracket that mounts to the inner wheel we=
ll. This one is evil. This kit transfers all the shock loading =
to the bodywork which was not designed to this and will suffer for it. =
; Avoid at all costs.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">#2 Multi-piece. This has a series of three brac=
kets on each side. There is a bracket that mounts to the inner wheel =
well as in the on above but it also bolts up to another bracket in the rece=
ss by the gas tank which mounts up to yet another bracket that bolts up to =
the mount for the lever shock. This kit transfers the shock loading t=
o the frame point that was designed for it. The down side is there ar=
e six pieces requiring 16 new holes in the bodywork and the brackets are bu=
lky. I removed mine after I found the tire on one side was rubbing ag=
ainst the bracket in the wheel well.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">#3 single bracket direct to the frame. This par=
t is unique in its appearance in that it has a serpentine shape, mounts to =
the frame where the lever shock mounts and reaches up to accept the top of =
the shock. It has been said that this bracket will crack the frame si=
nce it has a long lever arm and could apply additional torque to the mount.=
But a quick vector analysis indicates that the forces are parallel t=
o the long axis of the bracket and the loading on the frame will be not sig=
nificantly different that those applied by the original lever shock. =
The TR6 frame is infamous for having weak spots but the shock mount is not =
one of them. The differential mount certainly is and 40 year old fram=
es tend to experience cracking regardless of what shock system is used.</fo=
nt></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">I've used #2 and #3 and, more recently, switched back=
to lever shocks re-valved by World Wide Auto Parts and find this a good so=
lution for street use. I suppose I could have tried a series of teles=
copic shocks with #3 but having other irons in the fire I did not pursue th=
at approach. <br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div> <br clear=3D"none">
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From: Yahoo via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Sun, May 10, 2020 11:12 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div id=3D"yiv5645220750">An old topic, but came up recently from the=
mgb side of my club john twist of university motors has=
a video cautioning folks with this mod on their b to check the bolts on th=
eir conversion brackets. I checked this on my 6 and all 4 bolts=
were nicely tight after many years. Also, no frame cracking that I could s=
ee. After some of the horror storis about this conversion,&nbs=
p; I might not do it again
<div id=3D"yiv5645220750yMail_cursorElementTracker_1589170186222">Cheers&nb=
sp; bruce simms<br clear=3D"none">
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