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Re: Fwd: Re: lever action shocks

To: "Timothy Holbrook" <tjh173@yahoo.com>,
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: lever action shocks
From: "Richard Seaton" <rsh17@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:28:14 -0600
 Just a curious observation on lever shocks. If I remember right the frame has
a rebound bumper which contacts the arm of the lever and one at the trailing
arm that contacts the body in the wheel arch. Both of these bumps absorb the
road shock (potentially). The  bump stop on the frame seems to me a better
stop than what  some conversions offer. If you have the original setup
(levers), shock is transmitted to a more secure location on the frame instead
of the weaker area of the lever shock mount. (I think some people have had
breakages here, but I don't know first hand). Does the shock act as the over
travel stop on the conversions mentioned or does the trailing arm to wheel
arch stop do this? If the shock takes the brunt of the shock is this not a
good thing?
  I'm sure I'll get quite a bit of comments on this!!

  By the way I've installed Revington's conversion and the instructions are
quite clear on checking over travel so as not to rely on the shock as the
stop. The kit also comes with gussets to weld next to the spring towers to
reinforce it. This kit does rely  on the wheel arch support ONLY for over
travel.

  Just some rambling thoughts which may amount to nothing as I have no real
experience in. So don't lash out on me too bad!

Richard
'69 in the works.

----- Original Message -----
From: Timothy Holbrook
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:46 PM
To: David Friedlander
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: lever action shocks

Good point Dave, I wasn't very clear in my posting.  The kit that I
have is the one-piece bracket type.  I got mine from NAR Inc in New
Jersey.  A quick note, there are a few different types of one-piece
bracket conversion kits out there.  The one from VB looks like it's a
cast piece.  The one I got from NAR is made of square steel tubing,
welded together.

As others have mentioned, the multi-piece, bolt-in shock conversion
sold by Moss and others is no good.  It transfers load to the body of
the car, which obviously is not built to withtstand that kind of force.
The brackets will eventually rip the brackets out of the body.
Personally, I can't understand why Moss and others would sell such a
poor product, especially in light of the new kit that is so much
better.  I guess they probably have a load of these inferior kits still
in stock, and need to sell them before switching to the better product.

Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6


--- David Friedlander <forzion@maine.rr.com> wrote:
> Tim;
>
> I've lost track of WHICH type of rear conversion brackets you are
> talking
> about, Tim. Do you have the Moss type or some other type (maybe a
> one-piece
> construction type)? I bought the Moss kit with Koni rear shocks but
> have
> not yet installed them.
>
> Dave Friedlander
> CF25194UO
>
> Timothy Holbrook wrote:
>
> > I can't speak for Richard, but I've had mine on the car for over 3
> > years and probably 20,000 miles, no problems and no stress
> fractures on
> > the frame.  Using Spax shocks.
> >
> > Tim Holbrook
> > 1971 TR6
> >
> > --- jay_welch@juno.com wrote:
> > > To: ROVER827@aol.com
> > > CC: sakirsis@txucom.net, 6pack@autox.team.net
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:19:34 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: lever action shocks
> > > From: jay_welch@juno.com
> > >
> > > How long have you had these installed Richard??  There is talk of
> > > stress
> > > fractures on the frames of the cars using these.  I have a set
> but
> > > haven't installed them yet...more due to lack of time than panic
> of
> > > stressing the frame.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:48:22 EST ROVER827@aol.com writes:
> > > > You got the wrong conversion kit.
> > > > Use the kit with the one piece brackets that bolts right up.
> This
> > > is
> > > > an
> > > > excellent kit that installs in an hour.
> > > >
> > > > Never a good idea to drill holes in the body and stress out the
> the
> > >
> > > > thin
> > > > sheet metal there.
> > > >
> > > > Richard Truett
> > > > 1971 TR6 (with the one-piece shock conversion)
> > > > 1980 TR7 Spider
> > > > 1982 TR8
> >
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